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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:56 AM
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Media's Getting It WRONG
The media is getting it wrong, has been all along
with their "group think" and probably brown nosing analysis.

The debates may sway that small margin of undecideds one way or another, but those undecides, most of them, hate Bush, they're looking for a reason to get behind Kerry. He doesn't need a knockout to sway them.

Here's the big part that the media can't seem to grasp: the polls are INACCURATE because the new voters registering, the young voters that cared less in 2000, the Nader people that were kicking themselves that are voting Kerry, the unrest that's teeming everywhere in this country. No matter what Kerry does in those debates, NONE of these people are gonna be swayed to Bush. It's ANYONE but that lying dimwit.

And I know I'm contradicting a bit here by saying this, but the polls in the SOUTHERN STATES ARE GETTING CLOSER!

The media just wants a horese race, it's that manufactured drama, it's the new disgusting style they have of making news more exciting.

They're gonna have shows after the election "How did the media have it so wrong?" and "Are the polls BS?"

Too many Kerry signs, reports from people in traditionally solid Republican areas all over the country with signs and bumper stickers. Huge crowds.

The media is just not getting it right, OUT OF TOUCH PEOPLE



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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:58 AM
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1. By gosh I think you've got it!
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 10:59 AM by molly
"Here's the big part that the media can't seem to grasp: the polls are INACCURATE because the new voters registering, the young voters that cared less in 2000, the Nader people that were kicking themselves that are voting Kerry, the unrest that's teeming everywhere in this country. No matter what Kerry does in those debates, NONE of these people are gonna be swayed to Bush. It's ANYONE but that lying dimwit."

Welcome to DU!!! :toast:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:59 AM
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2. I think I know why the southern states are getting closer
No swift vet liars ads.
Same with Colorado.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:02 AM
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6. And Rove, Hughes, Matlin, et al ALL KNOW IT
Bank on it

They KNOW IT'S TRUE and behind the scenes they're nervous as hell and spinning like crazy. And they've got the media morons on their side, of course. But as I said before, that WILL NOT matter this time.



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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:00 AM
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3. I think you are right
The Media wants viewers. Viewers mean ratings; ratings mean advertising revenue. At the end of the day the networks (cable and mainstream) are all about making money. Obviously this has some negative ramifications when it comes to electoral politics.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:02 AM
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5. I've developed a scenario for when Kerry wins
the networks will be 24/7 about the huge upset.
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stubertmcfly Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:01 AM
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4. don't forget...
...the HUGE voter base being missed because people without land-lines aren't being polled. and a large percentage of this group is a younger demographic. usually more independant. usually vote more for more liberal candidates. the polls are really under-representing the kerry support. at this point, i am not so sure that is such a bad thing. i suspect that if you give the GOP enough rope, they'll hang themselves.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:04 AM
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9. Thanks Molly, right back atcha
and you could be right. The media loves a comeback as well, don't they?
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:02 AM
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7. I could not agree more
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 11:04 AM by fertilizeonarbusto
This election reminds me of 1980, when after months of us being told by the polls that it was too close to call, Reagan won big because the polls were skewed wrong, as they are this year. I have confidence that Kerry will win-even if he goes on an acid freak-out at the debates. Here in Pittsburgh- which is a very conservative town, folks- support for Kerry is so overwhelming it surprises even me.
I remember a cartoon after the '80 election with two pollsters, dressed like wizards, sitting in front of a big computer looking at the election results, which totally contradict their polling. One says to the other, "I don't know about you, but I'm going back to toadstools and eye of newt." Betcha that gets dusted off on 11/3.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:03 AM
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8. You know it. We know it. Even they probably know it.
What I don't get is the fact that not one of them sees that s/he could look like a genius by stating the obvious, that Bush is fighting for votes where he won them easily before and that Kerry is drawing gigantic crowds.

You'd think one of those fat-headed "pundits" (not to be confused with actual journalists) would run with it.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:06 AM
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10. July - they don't THINK
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 11:07 AM by Sugarcoated
I really believe that
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:07 AM
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11. I had a visitor from South Carolina to my California home
recently.

He said he had seen lots more Kerry/Edwards signs in South Carolina than here.

He said that he liked Bush but that he was worried about the deficit.

I think the Edwards/Cheney debate will be more important in the South than in other regions of the country. I hope Edwards is able to show Cheney for the greedy power-hungry egomaniac that he is.

(I still haven't forgiven Lieberman in the last VP debate. Lieberman let Cheney get away with saying that Cheney made his millions without a cent from the U.S. gov't. Like gov't contracts were not vital to Halliburton.)



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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:08 AM
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12. A fair analysis of the situation, imo.
I came to the same conclusions awhile back. I knew Bush was toast when my 43 year-old brother, who has never voted in his life, registered for the express purpose of voting against Bush. Further, he made his wife register, too! If Bush can motivate my brother to vote against him...he's toast.

My Brother = Ultimate Political Slacker

The polls and the media can amuse themselves in whatever way they choose. They are dead wrong.
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:23 AM
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13. Polls
Some of the polls with wide variances between * Kerry may be wrong since others have the race much closer. They all should get more consistent within the next few weeks. I haven't seen any evidence of the degree that cell phone only users and new registrants may have on the race. I would like to see if there is any impact. Otherwise, I agree that all Kerry must do is offer himself as an acceptable alternative to continuing with the incumbent. My fear is that the post game show will spin *'s resolve in protecting us past the point that Kerry is acceptable. Most people won't be watching and will form their opinion by what they hear.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:25 AM
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14. Great analysis!
And welcome to DU! :hi:
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:40 AM
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15. My brother, too. I don't think he's ever cared before.
I can't tell you how many young adults I've talked to who are STOKED about this election, and I've personally registered at least 100, the local democrats for Kerry group hundreds more.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:39 PM
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16. kick n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:48 PM
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17. They are getting wrong intentionally... This will be supporting
evidence when shrub fixes the election.
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