DU'ers listen up please

[Demi_Babe]

I am a "Security Mom" and I am very upset that many here are just assuming we are all a bunch of brainless idiots. I am a die-hard Democrat, have been my entire life and take that very seriously. Yes, I am a stay at home Mom by choice, drive the SUV and whatever else it is we do but I also volunteer for our local DNC. I have registered 4 non voters in 2 days (no easy task mind you) and have converted my conservative husband to a moderate Democrat (many years ago). I have held Kerry Meet Up Parties and am very dedicated to doing my part to help get John Kerry elected. I just hate to see so many here alienate me and stereotype me (and others here I am sure) as a "Stepford Wife" when that could not be further from the truth!

I'll step down off my soapbox now.

[trumad]

1. WTF is a Security Mom?

[Demi_Babe]

2. pretty much a label stay at home Moms have been given by the media

[trumad]

3. But whats it mean?

I understand Soccer Mom, but security Mom?

[LiviaOlivia]

15. Security Moms...

Mothers of Invention
by Noam Scheiber
09-24-04


If you've been following the presidential campaign these last few weeks, you've probably heard a thing or two about security moms--the erstwhile soccer moms who became obsessed with terrorism after September 11, and, in the process, began tilting Republican. The typical "security mom" story--variations of which have appeared in The Washington Post (twice), The New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, and the Philadelphia Inquirer in recent weeks, as well as on CNN, ABC, and NPR--cites the hair-raising effect of the recent Russian school massacre. It mentions Laura Bush's frequent pitches to women on security matters, and notes how the Republican Convention was awash in security talk. Often the stories are larded with a testimonial by a real-live security mom, invariably a pro-choice, pro-gay rights, anti-death penalty former Gore supporter who's convinced only George W. Bush can keep her children safe. All of them conclude that security moms could cost John Kerry the election.

Oh, and the stories usually have one other thing in common: They're based on almost no empirical evidence.

<snip>

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=scheiber092404
subsription req'd

[efhmc]

5. A made up media term that lumps all stay at home Moms as insipid,

cowering belles that are looking for a real strong, phony cowboy to protect them and their families. In a nutshell, they do not exist except in some male pollster's mind!!!

[Booster]

35. This is exactly why I don't understand why security moms

aren't totally for Kerry - Bush has done nothing to secure our borders, airlines, etc. If they don't at least try to cover the borders of Canada and Mexico, we will never be safe, and living in CA, I can tell you the Mexican border is certainly not covered.

[Shoeempress]

4. But that actually means you are not a security mom, you're a mom.

You don't think some idiot who promises to keep you safe actually can. You are obviously an intelligent woman who has chosen to raise her family. Don't take it so personally.

[dweller]

6. in all due respect Security Mom

dump the SUV, and you'll have a whooooole lot more credibility with me.

just mho.
dp

[mzmolly]

7. I think Security Mom pertains to a specific group of Women endorsing

* ?

I'm a Mom much like you ... but I drive a Mini-Van :hi:

[Demi_Babe]

9. :-)

:hi:

[cheshire]

8. The Moms we talk about are a specific group for * do you belong to

that group?

[Demi_Babe]

12. well, maybe that's who you are referring too

but the media is lumping all SAHM's it seems.

[hippiegranny]

28. my daughter is a SAHM

and she is definitely going for Kerry. They can "lump" all they want, once again, they ignore the reality of newly registered young voters in favor of outdated and overly rightwing weighted poll models. let the wingers think they have it in the bag, maybe a bunch of winger SAHMs will just stay home on Nov 2.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

10. I always felt that the term

"security mom" referred to the women who were voting for Bush because he made them "feel" safer(whatever that's supposed to mean). I didn't ever think it was referring to stay at home moms.

Security moms to me are the women who drive SUV's because they make them "feel safer". Even though they aren't, they feel that way??I dunno...doesn't make sense to me.

[Hamlette]

19. maybe not voting for Bush but moms concerned with security first

stay at home or otherwise. I have never thought it meant stay at home moms.

We are not the party of divide and conquer, that's the republicans. We don't care if you stay at home but we do care a little that you drive a SUV, and so do you, especially after this stupid war in Iraq. I'm certain you've made the connection between fuel consumption and bad foreign policy.

[Carni]

20. I took it to mean the same thing

I didn't think it was a stay at home mom deal...just a blanket "I am a bushbot and I know everything and am the best mother" kind of a deal.

[SoCalDemocrat]

11. Tell the moms out there

That their kids are infinitely more likely to be injured or killed driving than they are to ever cross paths with a terrorist, let alone be harmed by one.

[trumad]

13. Hey Demi-Babe

So what is a security Mom in your opinion.... Why are you labeling yourself with a label thought up by the RNC?

[Demi_Babe]

16. It's the new Soccermom

and the media made it up because it seems some of the women who usually vote democrat are voting for Bush because of the fear of terrorism (think Russian school here).

[trumad]

22. OK

then why the hell are you calling yourself a errr "Security Mom"?

[Carni]

14. If you aren't voting for bush you aren't a "security mom"

That's the point...

The spin is, that "mom's concerned with the welfare of their children are voting for bush"

Other "mom's" (myself included) that wouldn't vote for that horse's ass (even if you held a gun to my head) are not considered "security moms"

It's a Rove/media term that has been eagerly embraced by GOP Bush apologist women.

Don't make the error of thinking that people HERE would place YOU in that category!

[Demi_Babe]

18. I must be seeing it differently than you

I assumed the media was referring to all SAHM's who usually lean to the left but have started leaning right after the Russian school tragedy.

My bad!

[Carni]

21. No, they had that mantra going WAY before the Russian attack

I think I first heard the term right after 911.

[secular_warrior]

25. no - they are suburban women who

drive SUV's and lean towards Bush because these things make them "feel safe". These are exactly the group of voters Bush's over-the-top macho posturing is targeted at. They are what I like to refer to as "conservative feminists" -- love their civil rights and social equality, have great careers where there male bosses only respect them because liberals fought for their rights -- but are basically ditzy when it comes to men and security issues.. they need a man to protect them and are influenced by macho posturing.. they don't like modern men because they view them as too "sensitive".. they are quick to emasculate any man they view as a "liberal weakling". Their husbands are usually ditto head conservatives who treat them like children -- just the way they like it.

[secular_warrior]

17. security mom=soccer mom=DLC mom

We can all thank the DLC for coming up with these imaginary constituencies. Now it is all coming back to bite us like everything else the DLC does.

Supposedly, soccer moms/security moms are socially liberal/fiscally conservative suburban women. They are basically Republican but like having the Democrats fight for their abortion rights and social equality. These are the voters the DLC covets in the never ending quest to turn the Dem party into moderate Republicans.

ps. You are not a security mom/soccer mom.

[trumad]

23. Whaaaat the hell are you talking about?

[Carni]

26. I believe that was media spin as well

It was just a way to degrade any woman that would vote for the Dems as an affluent and selfish type person that would "kill their child"
(surely any "decent woman" wouldn't vote for that heathen Bill Clinton yada yada yada)

All these media terms are crap...

Frankly if I were a man, I would be very offended by the "nascar dad" mantra because it translates into "dumb redneck" but none of the bushbots seem to object to the term.

It's all brainwashing designed to shame or flatter IMO

[secular_warrior]

31. these terms do not originate in the media

They originate from think thanks who do research on different voting blocs, then talk to the media about it because they feel they have an advantage in winning over that constituency.

I'm pretty sure the DLC/New Democrats came up with "soccer mom" and the less talked about "office park dad" in the early 90s, and the terms became more popular when Clinton was elected (he was part of the DLC).

Then, in the 2002 elections when the "soccer moms" supported the Bush republicans, the term "security mom" was spun by the GOP.

[Carni]

34. I can't argue the point because I don't know

But IMO it's all a load of crap--

[Still_Notafraid]

32. Republicans

Republicans being fiscally conservative is a myth.they just want shift the weight of running our country as much as they can to lower income peoples in fact they want to increase spending into the military and corporate welfare,they also want to decrease the IRS and do away with inspector generals which means more tax fraud and theft of public funds.republicans increase taxes not cut them though there policy's that raise the cost of living lower the value of the dollar,and cause instability.

and by the way if your shifting right because your scared of terrorist your nuts if you think republicans can reduce terrorist by killing them you do not understand terrorist,terrorist want you to kill them they go to heaven which is there purpose! they LOVE when you kill them,if you die fighting infidels you go to heaven.only way to fight terrorist is keep them out of your country,stop killing them,take away there funds,and stop dependence on foreign oil.VOTE Kerry he understands terrorist

[secular_warrior]

33. exactly - Borrow and Spend Republicans/Terrorist creating Republicans

Republicans give tax cuts to the rich now, then run deficits so the children of the middle class can pay for it later.

Republicans create terrorists and dictators now, so they can have profitable/imperiastic wars to fight later.

[Andromeda]

24. Security Mom is just a euphemism

for Socker Moms Who Are Scared Shitless.

Bushbots think scaring mothers to death will cause them to vote for Bush. They don't give women any credit for having a brain. Unfortunately, there are a lot of brain dead people out there who will vote for Bush because they believe he's the only one who will keep them safe.

Let's hope there are more moms like you out there. :)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

27. Are security moms fond of sacrificing their children for shrub's wild

misguided adventures overseas? I mean... if you are for security... you MUST be in favor of the "War President" who is keeping us safe, who has made America safer... who can leap over building with a single bound.....

Just kidding of course... welcome and I hear ya loud and clear.....

[Malva Zebrina]

29. Security Moms are wannabees , imo

They travel around on their visa cards. They think they are up there with the rich and want to be considered rich, competing on the lower level of things the "rich" have.

How many moms have to work in order to pay the bills for a SUV so they can be admired by their community? How many Moms can even afford a S"U*V?

If these are the moms who are the women that Bush "stands for", then I consider them absoulutely DUMB and trapped besides.

They are wannabees without a soul.

[wildeyed]

30. I hate the term 'security mom', which I think is just a

Karl Rove/media myth anyway. I hate 'soccer mom'. I hate 'stay at home mom'. I hate being labeled. I stay at home with my kids 'cause they are little, we can afford it and I believe it is best for them and for our family at this point in time. But it does not totally define me as a human. I have lots of interesting things going on between my ears.


You are not a stepford wife, you are a tough and able soldier for democracy. :hi: