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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:26 PM
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Atrios: "MSNBC Cans Luntz"
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM by abernste
Media Matters ROCKS!

From Atrios:

"Looks like the letter had an impact. Although MSNBC did not respond to Brock, a spokeswoman for the network told HOH late Wednesday that the network has decided “not to go with Frank for the debate.” In fact, MSNBC won’t conduct polling at all now, she said."

**snip**

On Edit: The nation may not be better of then we were four years ago, but our side is sure a hell of a lot stronger.

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:27 PM
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1. Jesus Christ thank you!
This is the first good news I've heard from the media. Is it true?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:27 PM
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2. Holy shit!!!!!!
OMG, you just made my week!!!!!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM
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3. Wow, that is great news.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:28 PM
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4. What's this all about???
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:29 PM
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5. Go here
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:33 PM
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11. holy crap, Brock rocks! n/t
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:34 PM
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12. Hmmm...it seems that Luntz is a charlatan
wonder if the right will string him up now that he's been exposed.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:42 PM
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18. Suh-Weet!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:30 PM
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7. I heard Minority Report talking about it
Media Matters had a campaign going.

www.mediamatters.org
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:40 PM
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16. *Majority* Report
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:41 PM by sonicx
It's not a Tom Cruise movie, damnit! :D
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:47 PM
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22. oops
:D
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:48 AM
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47. And the liberal/progressive viewpoint I S . T H E . M A J O R I TY...
... in this country -- contrary to the Rethug spin. (Similar to "liberal media", the propaganda that the conservative viewpoint is the majority is total b-s.)

Thus... The Majority Report
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:30 PM
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6. What great news!
I called them earlier today and left a message about luntz the putz. Great job everyone!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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8. David Brock is making amends for his time on the dark side.
YAY BROCK!! :thumbsup:
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:48 PM
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23. He needs to...
and he knows it. But that he is an "ex" republican gives him a certain... credibility, since he's seen the beast from the inside. That also gives him a certain...insight in how to fight it.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:05 PM
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43. Still conservative, but no longer an idiot.
You can at least listen to him now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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This is just amazing!..I had read earlier
on here that luntz was going to poll or whatever for msrnc after the dabate(sic) and I thought,"of course, he is!".

Wonder if ol' frank is torn up about it?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:32 PM
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9. Too little, too late for Gore but great news
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:33 PM
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10. Yessssss!!!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:35 PM
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13. kick
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:36 PM by PROGRESSIVE1
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

THANK YOU ATRIOS!!!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:36 PM
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14. Truth does rock!
Thanks, D. Brock!
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:39 PM
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15. holy shit !!!! I am stunned and elated.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:41 PM
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17. About time
I can't believe they ever trotted him out as independent or unbiased. He wrote the contract on america for goodness sake!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:42 PM
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19. About friggin time, now we need to work on Schiender
of CNN fame!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:03 PM
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29. Schneider is very similar -- AEI affiliation is not disclosed on air...
just on his online bio. And he carries the title "CNN Senior Political Analyst"!
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:14 PM
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32. You should have seen the email I wrote to Blitzer.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:46 PM
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20. Lest any one of us doubt the power of the Blogosphere...
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 07:48 PM by GainesT1958
And of non-profit websites legitimately "for truth", HERE IT IS, folks!:D

Apparently, even some of the media whores are starting to notice. Otherwise, why would USA Today feel the need to respond to massive criticism of Gallup's extreme bias in its polling demographics? Most of that criticism came from places--and people--like Atrios (Eschaton), KOS, DonkeyRising (Ruy Texiera), Josh Marshall, and, yes, right here from us DUers.

Because of the hell they--and we--raised about Mr. Repub Frank Luntz, he will NOT be a factor during, or after, the debate; we WON'T be subjected to his "push-polling" live on the air of a focus group, nor will they even do a post-debate poll.

Howard Dean may not have been my man during the primaries, but the Doctor was dead-on right when he said:

YOU have the power!:D

I'm lovin'it!:bounce:

:kick:

B-)
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:46 PM
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21. That's good news!
Frank Luntz is a Republican putz. He always drove me nuts with his stupid focus groups.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:49 PM
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24. Dear CNN

You're next.

"Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:21 PM
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34. Yes...CNN should fire Howie Kurtz or have him declare his Repug Wife
Sherri Annis works for a Repug PR Firm every time he appears smearing CBS and as Host of his show Reliable Sources...casting a "spotlight on the media."
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:05 PM
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49. Howie's "media reports" in the WaPo should have the same disclaimer.
It's like having their own little Fox "Fair and Balanced" reporter who's nothing of the kind.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:55 PM
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25. Damn, I might have to start having faith again.
This is wonderful. truly. :)
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:56 PM
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26. Wow that is great news!
Wooooohoooooo!!!!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:57 PM
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27. that's excellent, but CNN might try to get Luntz
It's just a guess.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:02 PM
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28. "That would actually be pretty funny" n/t
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:06 PM
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30. doubt it
they have a marketing agreement with Gallup.. if this is true it must have just been decided:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58682-2004Sep29.html

FRANK LUNTZ
Occupation: Republican pollster. Thursday night he will conduct a nonpartisan focus group for MSNBC, gauging reaction to the presidential debate.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:06 PM
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31. I'm looking forward to Friday's
WE WILL WE WILL BROCK YOU !!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:26 AM
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46. Yes, me too!
This is a really great thing that Media Matters help spearhead.

Luntz was evil--trying to pass himself off as neutral when in fact he was a republican spin-meister! And MSNBC was letting it happen until they got called on it!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:19 PM
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33. This is the best
news I've heard all day.

Luntz is a slimy SOB and, if I recall, actually wrote the book on Neocon lexicon.........hence "death tax" etc.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:24 PM
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35. Atrios is on the Majority Report on AAR right now
speaking about Luntz's departure.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:27 PM
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36. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Excellent, excellent.

Congratulations to all of us!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:28 PM
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37. Woah!
:wow:
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:31 PM
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38. Wonderful news!!!
Dems are learning...getting stronger...it will make a huge difference!
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:34 PM
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39. This is GREAT news - Media Matters DOES rock!
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Sputnik Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:47 PM
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40. Wow, just two minutes ago I e-mailed my complaint to them
That is great news indeed. Here's Frank Luntz biography. Sickening that anyone would hire him as a pollster, who is SUPPOSED to be unbiased.

http://www.harrywalker.com/speakers_template.cfm?Spea_ID=424



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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:03 PM
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41. (Sigh)
Let the games begin!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:05 PM
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42. I fired off an email today per media matters suggestion!!!!
Of course, my email probably didn't have squat to do with this, but still it is empowering, isn't it?!

Wow.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:21 PM
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44. kick
:kick:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:13 AM
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45. kick
:kick:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:51 AM
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48. WOW!
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:19 PM
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50. Roll Call Story
MSNBC Cans Luntz

The watchdog organization Media Matters for America was none too pleased that MSNBC had scheduled GOP pollster Frank Luntz conduct on-air focus groups following tonight’s presidential debate.

In a letter to MSNBC President Richard Kaplan, Media Matters President David Brock (who used to call himself a conservative), said he hoped the network would disclose Luntz’s "partisan Republican ties and history of questionable scientific methodology."

Brock cited a number of examples, including Luntz’s work on the 1994 Republican "Contract with America," pointing out that Luntz was reprimanded by the American Association for Public Opinion Research for refusing to disclose data on how he surmised that 60 percent of Americans supported the Contract. Brock also noted Luntz’s published remarks counseling swing-state Republicans on what to say about Iraq and homeland security.

Looks like the letter had an impact. Although MSNBC did not respond to Brock, a spokeswoman for the network told HOH late Wednesday that the network has decided "not to go with Frank for the debate." In fact, MSNBC won’t conduct polling at all now, she said.
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