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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:34 AM
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Jim Lehrer could stump Bush with a simple question
he could ask Bush to summarize the events of TODAY in Iraq. Not the overall goal, not a vague statement that "it's tough." Lehrer should ask Bush to demonstrate that he has the slightest inkling of specific things that are actually happening in the war he's leading.

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Does anyone think Bush could name a single one of these horrific events?

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:37 AM
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1. Like Yoda would say :
Stumped the idiot would be. :)
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:44 AM
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2. He'd just use O'reilly answer
The media has spinned everything to make it look bad
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:24 AM
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3. Yes you're right except for one thing.....
The media is now owned by the repukes....and with the key moves they've made....an actual culture has formed which is pro establishment, pro falling in line, with decreasing probability every single day that anyone will risk stepping out of line. The media of today has no semblance to anything of the past. It talks around in circles and provides little to no information.

The other day the quintessential pant load Chris Matthews was interviewing Bill Maher...and in the course of the interview Bill said something to the effect...well it would like Bush getting drunk and choking on peanuts....

Matthews demeanor changed on a dime and he said, with easy to discern trembling fear in his voice....YOU CAN'T SAY THAT (in such a "matter of fact" delivery that I was completely taken back). I instantly thought to myself...holly schit...is that REALLY something that you can't say?

Maher paused for an instant and said....Chris...it...was a joke. Has Zell Miller gotten to you?

Matthews...still off kilter....as it he'd been transported off the set for 15 seconds said.....er...I can't have a part in that...I just have to clear myself of that....that's all....and then went on about the interview recovering himself pretty quickly.

In that instant I saw through to Matthews....as if he was a little school boy....a sniveling little mommy's boy who has just schit in his pants when someone backed him into the corner in the school yard. Ever see through people like that and realize behind all that false exterior is really a big grown up child? Mr. Matthews...Mr. Hardball guy....tough guy who took on Zell Miller?....holy schit...don't make me laugh.

Kinda like the way I feel about Rather that he couldn't weather the criticism....but now I see him in the same light after his lame apology for doing nothing wrong. "I'm sorry"....Geeze is that lame.

With the exception of John McLaughlin, Lou Dobbs and a few others I find hardly anyone worth watching on TV.

But the point is this...Lehre's history in these things is such that he is just the right good boy to do the right job...he'll do what he's told...with convincing style.....but no doubt within a framework of what has been given him.

If Bush wins....it is in large part because of all the right wing control of the media combined with all the right wing ducks that work there that love falling in line to degrade Kerry. What a wonderful camaraderie these maggots have. You couldn't cut and paste a full hour of anything good said about Kerry on TV within the last year if your life depended on it....with the possible exception of what I've seen on the McLaughlin report. It is because of this serious entrenchment of right wing ideals and culture which has evolved within the network that America has been successfully dumbed down. It's become cheap, incompetent, and fully representative of the hollow ideals these people represent.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:31 AM
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4. Lehrer is capable of being good
he's not always good, but he can be.

He's the only person I can think of that has interviewed Rumsfeld without playing along with Rummy's schtick. He cuts through Rummy's B.S. and actually expresses some impatience and disgust with his antics, and Rummy ends up looking off-balance and quite foolish.

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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:54 AM
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6. I know what you're talking about....but who needs it...
You have to appreciate the simple fact that he's been selectively chosen for his apparent impartiality and PBSy anti-mainstream potential appeal. You think he can be good? I've never thought he was any good. He's just a pseudo-intellectual talking head just a notch above Tim Russert. He's got nothing between his ears....he's not even close to being in McLaughlin's league.

Don't you think what we really need is some real truth in all of this?
In terms of truth....and trying to weed out any BS that could potentially warp that truth....I'd pick a few high school students at random before I'd go with ANY one of these talking heads.

This is America on a grand stage....and you can believe what you want....but it's an utter embarrassment. You'll see after the debates that I'm right. If anything Lehre will seize a small portion of the already small maneuvering room he thinks he might have and use it to give Kerry a few keen eyed stares. All it will take is one of his pseudo intellectual smart ass deliveries to Kerry and with the way people have been led to believe Kerry can't answer a question....well there becomes your defining moment.

Why don't you keep score on the whole thing...and you'll see Lehre will clearly favor Bush.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:11 PM
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7. I think I saw that one
It was a few months ago, and Rummy was trying to pull his trick about how we don't need more troops, but we do need an Indian division.

Lehrer bounced it back on him three times, saying basically, "Why do you need more troops if you say you don't need more troops?" It left Rummy sputtering and incoherent. I loved it, but it was cringe inducing to think of how many times DR had gotten away with the same BS in privious interviews without being called on it.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:18 PM
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9. Yes yes yes!!!! I posted about this yesterday.
"Matthews demeanor changed on a dime and he said, with easy to discern trembling fear in his voice....YOU CAN'T SAY THAT (in such a "matter of fact" delivery that I was completely taken back). I instantly thought to myself...holly schit...is that REALLY something that you can't say?"

The Bush Mafia perhaps?
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:47 AM
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5. Actually the question (and very honest one) he could give Bush that
would not only throw him off but set up Kerry to come in for the kill is: Mr. President many have been questioning Sen. Kerry about what his plans would be regarding the Iraq situation. Tonight, would you please tell the American people what your plans are to bring this war to a close and bring our troops home??..........presses debate light and listens. Of course Bush will blather "ahhh, stay the course...bring democracy...blah, blah". Then Kerry can reply, "there IS NO course to 'stay'..we have none because we have never had a plan and have no leadership". You know there is a great possibility that this question will be asked tonight. In fact, if they ask it of Kerry but never ask it of Bush, then it is a travisty.
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:16 PM
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8. Bush can say what he wants
It's his decisive "style" that has him in the lead. Repukes know the war is a mess but they are going to vote for him over Kerry because Kerry has been defined in the media as less than resolute which I guess is supposed to be a flaw. That's why the polls show a majority thinking the war was wrong AND a majority supporting Bush. It's counterintuitive. Their propaganda and control of the airways has corrupted the debate.
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misterphelps Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:19 PM
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10. Lost all faith in Lehrer
Once my favorite, now just another whore. I have little expectation of him throwing a curve.
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DammitSteve Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:21 PM
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11. The Bush Camp will shoot anyone who tries to throw a curve!
They've got snipers waiting, you know...
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RareLubbockDem Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:23 PM
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12. A good question, but
I'm not sure he is capable of feeling the sickness I felt earlier today watching them haul out all those wounded children.

Yeah, George, things are just going great over there.......

what an idiot.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:04 PM
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13. This implies that Bush would ever answer the question he's asked
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 08:10 PM by undisclosedlocation
rather than just deliver the answer he has prepared, and that anyone in the media will ever call him on it. Hmmm, I guess stranger things have happened...
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