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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:17 PM
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Fineman: Beware of Fineman
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 03:18 PM by Nederland
Fineman: Beware debate spinners

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Pivotal moments aren't usually apparent at first glance. They are like a old-fashioned photographic print in a chemical bath; they take time to emerge. Often there isn't a pivotal moment, even a hidden one, so it takes even longer for the press to invent one outright, since drama is what we live on. In 2000, at UMass in Boston, I went on MSNBC after the first Gore-Bush debate and said I thought that Bush had "won" it by not losing it. I was right, as it turned out, but I did not get the real news — which, it became clear after a day or two, was all about The Gore Sigh.

Now a huge industry has grown up to influence what the press eventually decides to declare the Pivotal Moment. I speak, of course, of the spin doctors. At UCLA long ago, spinners were a new invention, still in their guppy phase. After the debate, a smattering of them circulated through the press area, but they did so gingerly, whispering and cajoling and trying to act all innocent and helpful as they did their work of shaping a story.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6143026/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:20 PM
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1. Fineman, why don't you beware of spinners, jackass!
:grr:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:23 PM
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2. What A Scumbag
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 03:24 PM by Beetwasher
So, he writes a piece about spinners and has ONE surrogate in the piece who of course supports Bush. So it becomes another piece that contains ONLY Bush spin.

What piece of fucking whorish garbage.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:23 PM
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3. Jaysus, there are so many things wrong with this ...
... at so many levels.

Yeah, Gore "sighing" was the REAL NEWS. Poor Howard missed the RW echo chamber spin till a week later. Poor Howard. Next time he will have to go right on Drudge and listen to Rush so he can find out what the REAL story is.

No wonder Jon Stewart makes millions of dollars. These guys certainly are a target rich environment .....
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:56 PM
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4. Did he just figure out this happens?
I mean, just cause they weren't wearing badges that said Hello, I'm A Spinner, he didn't think his hasn't gone on after every event of this sort since God Knows When?

Boy, you are dumber than we thought....

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:06 PM
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5. they are upset because the dems are trying to spin it our way
for once...so they are warning people not to listen to us.

scum
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