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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:02 AM
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Check in if you are pissed that Condi lied to you
"The tubes were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs," Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser, asserted on CNN on Sept. 8, 2002. "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

State of the Union - 2003
"Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/international/middleeast/03tube.html?pagewanted=3
"It turned out, they reported, that Iraq had for years used high-strength aluminum tubes to make combustion chambers for slim rockets fired from launcher pods. Back in 1996, inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency had even examined some of those tubes, also made of 7075-T6 aluminum, at a military complex, the Nasser metal fabrication plant in Baghdad, where the Iraqis acknowledged making rockets. According to the international agency, the rocket tubes, some 66,000 of them, were 900 millimeters in length, with a diameter of 81 millimeters and walls 3.3 millimeters thick.

The tubes now sought by Iraq had precisely the same dimensions - a perfect match.

That finding was published May 9, 2001, in the Daily Intelligence Highlight, a secret Energy Department newsletter published on Intelink, a Web site for the intelligence community and the White House."
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:05 AM
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1. Typical for Condi and this Administration
They believe that the truth is whatever they say it is. Most of us read Orwell's 1984 as a dystopia. They adopted it as a handbook for the operation of government.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:12 AM
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6. Thanks for the new word..I knew utopia, but not dystopia, again
thanks! I went right to my Merriam-Webster to look it up. I can think of hundreds of ways to use this term now in regards to the neo-cons view of how they want to transform the earth to their advantage.

:hi:
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:14 AM
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8. You're welcome.
That's what this crew sees as a desireable future for the US. Unfortunately for them, we get to send them packing in a few weeks.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:07 AM
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2. Condi disgraced the office of the Presidency when she lied like she did
We expect to hear the political operatives to tell us lies these days, but Condi is a member of the White House staff. She has an obligation to the entire nation, not just one political party. She knew the truth, but she refused to speak it. Instead, she chose to lie for political expediency. I lost all respect for her when she became the 'point man' for the neo-con "WMD" lies.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:07 AM
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3. And she says that it was better to not operate under a "false belief"
that Saddam wasn't just that dangerous. Can you believe she is still in charge of the NSA--that she is still making decisions on what intel means?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:09 AM
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4. Prison, JP.
Maximum security prison for all of them.

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zoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:12 AM
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5. They lied
when they tried to cover their asses for dropping the ball on 911. They had all the information needed to put more security in our airports, possibly preventing the hijackings, and they didn't. they tried blaming an invisible wall between the CIA and FBI, members of the 911 commission and then trashed the reputations of those that dared to speak out. Condi couldn't imagine someone hijacking a plane and flying it into a building. Not only are they liars they are idiots.
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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:13 AM
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7. She is excellent at...
covering up for the administration. I know that the NYT is running that piece but my hope is that the story with be in the press for the next 72 or more hours. I am just getting to my Washington Post now, and if it's not on the front today it should be tomorrow.

She can dismiss as much as she wants, but the fact that she has to respond just makes it bad for the White House. Just another little log on the fire baby...
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:30 AM
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9. I hate that woman...the beach!
I try not listening to her lies and her mommy-cover-up of little georgie.

My friend says, Condi should come out of the closet. She hides georgie as much as she hides her lesbianism. Condi is not married, never been married and is never seen anywhere with a man, except for little georgie.

Condi should marry Karen Huge, who definitely looks like Arrhold the Groper.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:33 AM
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10. Dan Bartlett made the first admission
this morning that Bush knew anything about any WMD intelligence being suspect. Bartlett said Bush had the NIE information on the tubes with its caveats read to him. We need to prove Bush knew he was misleading America with his State of the Union speech.

Condi knew there was serious doubt about the tubes. She should be asked what she told Bush.

The debate over the tubes was even in the news. Bush gave his State of the Union message after news accounts called the tubes intelligence into doubt. Somehow, noboby ever seems to point out that Bush should have known what he was saying was a lie.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:35 AM
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11. Already asked - on the Today show this morning
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:37 AM
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12. Yeh.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:09 AM
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13. Condi DID tell the truth about one thing though.
The only way to fight terrorism is to prevent the circumstances that created Al Qaeda in the first place (paraphrasing - not an exact quote)

She's absolutely right about that. Al Qaeda was created when a Bush was in the White House. Al Qaeda allegedly attacked America when a Bush was in the White House. Remove the circumstances which created Al Qaeda (the Bush Criminal Empire) and you'll strike a death blow to the terra-ists.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:10 AM
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14. Geroge, George, George, Blink, Blink, Blink
not the words or actions of a woman telling the truth! Just like her boss, defensive and blinking.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:13 AM
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15. when did the creature ever NOT lie to us?
she or any of the rest of the criminal bushgang?
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