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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 11:10 PM
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What cases of malfeasance or fraud are people aware of other than these?
Voters who, legitimately, included their Social Security number as the ID on their form have had their registration rejected because the state connection to the Social Security database isn't working yet and the auditors can't verify the ID information
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041013/NEWS09/410130353/1001

State officials said Story County Auditor Mary Mosiman violated voting regulations when she directed poll workers to turn away people in line at closing time
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041031/NEWS09/410310336/1056


who were the main voters affected here?
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 11:30 PM
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1. Here's one regarding absentee ballots
016411 10/27/04, 4:54 PM PST Registration-related problem Johnson County County, Iowa Voter moved from one county in Iowa to another. She mailed in a request to her new county (Johnson county) to register there and to recieve an absentee ballot. When she did not receive her absentee ballot, she called the registar's office and was told that they threw away her registration and absentee ballot request form because she was not already registered in that county and they were receiving too many registrations. Yes
042764 11/02/04, 1:42 PM PST Registration-related problem Iowa City, Johnson County, Iowa Re-Registered 3 times and never received a absentee ballot.
047876 11/02/04, 4:51 PM PST Other County Auditor's Office, Johnson County County, Iowa Republicans challengers have challenged over 4000 absentee ballots. Got email from friend, currently at auditors office. Grounds for challengingng are unknown.
060429 12/27/04, 6:05 AM PST Absentee-ballot related problem; Registration-related problem Johnson County, Iowa Reported via mail to eirhelp: Want a case study of dirty voter fraud tricks? called me last night, upset because she got a letter in the mail yesterday (Nov. 9) saying her absentee ballot was challenged, and she had until noon on Nov. 4th to reply or her ballot would be thrown out. She's having her mail forwarded from IC to DC while she's there, which explains why it took a week for her to get this letter. So called the county auditor's office to complain. Apparently, the auditor's office had received a couple *thousand* similar calls complaining this week. Some committee challenged a bunch of absentee ballots in Johnson county, and really didn't give voters a chance to respond: the letter regarding the challenge (sent from Dubuque) was postmarked Nov. 3, and they required a response by noon Nov. 4. They invalidated her voter registration, in fact. So not only didn't her vote for Kerry count, she now has to re-register to vote in the future. and I voted in the last congressional election 2 years ago, and she hasn't changed addresses or anything since then. She checked to make sure her registration was still valid when we got our absentee ballots, in fact. I wonder how widespread this is? If they were able to invalidate ballots from people who were clearly legitimate voters, simply by a technicality whereby they challenged the ballot and didn't give the voter a chance to respond, how much did this occur nationwide? There is a serious flaw in the system when the burden of proof is on the voter. If someone wants to challenge a voter registration, they should have to prove there is a reason it should be invalid. It's ludicrous that someone can challenge a ballot without reason, and require the voter to jump through hoops to prove that they should be allowed to vote.
060738 12/31/04, 6:30 AM PST Voter Intimidation Johnson County, Iowa According to http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041103/NEWS09/411030376/1056 Republicans challenged the legality of several hundred absentee ballots, forcing them into a pile of challenged votes that will be sorted out later. Challenges included different spellings of a person's name. "There's no one particular group that is being targeted that we can tell, other than the fact that they're all Democrats," said Sarah Swisher, the county's Democratic Party chairwoman.


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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 11:40 PM
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3. And again...a highly Democratic County--Johnson
Johnson County is highly Democratic--above 60 percent.

Plus, it's a high-population County--which brings in a very-significant number of Dem votes.

This really stinks.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 11:35 PM
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2. I was unaware of this happening in Iowa...
...it's too bad.

It seems like stuff like this happened all over the country.

The Story County situation is interesting. Story County is highly Democratic. Iowa State University is in Story County (Ames) and the town is extremely liberal.

Also, regarding Story County...On election night, I recall Chet Culver discussing a shortage of voting machines in Story County--Ames in particular. There was some sort of squabble between a female voting official (I'm sorry, but I don't remember who it was) and Culver. Culver insisted that this woman definitely knew that she was supposed to have x number of machines in Ames. Culver seemed to suggest that they were short on voting machines in Ames. It's been a long time since this story aired, so I apologize if I messed up on the details, but that is the story I recall.

So, it seems interesting that this Story County Auditor would violate voting regulations by turning away people in line at closing time--when there was ALSO a shortage of voting machines.

I smell a rat.

Also--I was unaware that voter registrations were rejected. Rejecting those votes seems highly suspect. "The state connection to the Social Security database wasn't working". Ok, fine. Glitches happen. However, Iowa was one of the last states to count votes. There was plenty of time to fix the old "state connection to the Social Security database". At least a couple of weeks. I can understand why this would hold up things for a day or two--max. However, those votes should have been counted in the final Iowa numbers.

I try to keep this issue in perspective. However, it's very difficult to not "smell a rat" when so much of this stuff went on in the election--and 99 percent of it benefits Republicans.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:03 AM
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4. That story was from October 13
the registration situation was rectified by the Secretary of State before the election and people were not rejected because of their social security numbers on election day.
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:31 AM
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5. Mystery votes for Cobb on CNN Website...might mean nothing
When i was watching the Iowa presidential tally election nite, about 10 pm I saw one county listed on CNN's website that had 4,000 votes for Cobb. They later disappeared. Another DUer went to CNN confirm my finding and they found the same thing. I forgot the county name but this info should be in the dU ARCHIVE. This was secondhand info because it didn't come unless CNN's vote tallies were connected to the Election site of Iowa.
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