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pootbutta Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 03:18 PM
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Gov. Corbett
our Governor ... bad? or worst ever?
your thoughts?
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 04:15 PM
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1. Well I am definitely not proud of him, but he isn't Scott Walker.
At least not yet. He is bad, and I think that he will destroy this state/commonwealth for many years to come. Financially, we will be hurt by so many of his policies, from refusal to tax fracking to wanting to get all taxes for business lower. No new taxes or fees, well, unless you include local level taxes which will skyrocket because of lack of funding from the state level.

Environmentally, his cuts to DEP, taking power to fine violations from inspectors, championing the wild west attitude of the drilling companies...all will hurt this state.

But at least he isn't Scott Walker.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 04:35 PM
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3. Man, oh man... don't use the low bar of Scott Walker...
I think our governor absolutely is AWFUL. He stinks on ice. I don't like him. Nothing I've heard from him tells me he's any better or worse than that Nazi Scott Walker.

Have I made myself clear on this?
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 05:15 PM
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5. Clear as a bell, hon. I should have added a sarcasm gif
but I always forget that. As I said, Corbett is really bad and will destroy this state, if we can't stop him. And PA doesn't make it easy to stop a destructive governor.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:19 AM
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10. I wonder why we don't make it easy to stop destructive gov's
Is it because we're over-bloated in the General Assembly, or we're hopelessly corrupt the same way K street is in Washington? .... (or both?)

I guess that was a rhetorical question. ;-)
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:58 PM
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15. All of the above. But also, the whole system has to change
for us to have more power. We need a Constitutional Convention to have any possiblity to make the changes that we all know the legislature will never enact. Look at so many other states where they have referendums put to the voters before laws are enacted or taxes are raised. Do you think for a minute that our legislators would willingly turn any power over to the voters? Not in our lifetimes. This is one of the most corrupt states in the union.
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pootbutta Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:32 AM
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16. just wait...
he's not Scott Walker... yet.. it's coming very soon!
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:12 PM
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17. That is what really scares me.
I also do not think that he has got rolling yet.

:scared:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 12:51 AM
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19. I'm holding my breath.
I don't think we have a recall procedure here, though. We are so screwed.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:08 AM
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22. He's only been in office for a few months.
I fear for what's yet to come.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 04:26 PM
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2. Governor Grifter Gashole.
Worst Pennsylvania Governor in my lifetime...55 years. What amazes me is that the crookery is so blatant.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 04:36 PM
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4. "Gashole"...
Now, that's GOOD.
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pootbutta Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 08:44 AM
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21. gashole indeed
today i read that Corbett suggests colleges drill for gas on campus to raise money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 07:16 PM
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6. Worst in my lifetime (and I am 58 years old)
It's just a matter of time before he goes after the state workers and teachers. Right now he is too busy ruining our water and turning our beautiful PA landscape into a desolated, polluted wasteland.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 07:58 PM
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7. PA. has actually had half decent governors most years
Most of the governors throughout Pennsylvania history have been good guys.

In the past, however, Pa. had some horrible US Senators, particularly when they were picked by the State Legislature, before the people could vote for them.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 08:12 PM
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8. That's true. Up until now, even our Republican governors haven't
been that bad.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:49 AM
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11. Or is it just that Corbett is so bad he is making the other GOP
governors look good? :shrug: (I didn't live in PA from 1978-1994 and then from 2001-2007), but my Dad was active in politics and kept me up to date on what was going on.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:05 PM
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12. I honestly don't think the other Republican governors were
that bad, to be honest. Certainly not as bad as some republican governors elsewhere, that's for sure. But Corbett has certainly set the bad bar pretty high, hasn't he?
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 08:54 PM
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9. A disaster.
It isn't like we didn't see it coming. He is living up to his campaign promises, at least on education.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 05:02 PM
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13. Here's a link with complete history of all of Pennsylvania's governors.
Edited on Sat Apr-23-11 05:24 PM by Divernan
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/governors/4282

There's a lot of history/information there.

I was curious to look at the period from 1959 on. Republicans Scranton and Shafer were considered moderate and progressive Republicans. I included educational credentials. It is interesting that elected GOP governors were traditionally Ivy graduates. (Schweiker was never elected Governor.) Corbett broke that tradition to smithereens.

David Lawrence, D, 1959-63; 2 years of business college, then self-taught
William Warren Scranton, R, 1963-67; BA & LLM, Yale
Raymond P. Shafer, R, 1967-71; Allegheny College, BA; Yale, LLM

Under Shafer, Pennsylvania adopted a new constitution. Prior to this a governor could only serve one, four year term. The new constitution provided for two four-year terms, and every PA Governor since then has been elected to two terms. Ridge was elected twice, but left to head Homeland Security. Lt. Gov. Schweiker completed Ridge's 2nd term.


(new state constitution, permitting a governor to have two consecutive four year terms)

Milton J. Shapp, D, 1971-79; BS Case Western engineering
Dick Thornburgh, R, 1979 -1987;BS Yale engineering; Pitt JD
Robert P. Casey, D, 1987-1995; BA, College of Holy Cross; JD, George Washington University
Tom Ridge, R, 1995-2001; BA, Harvard; JD, Dickinson Law
Mark S. Schweiker, 2001-2003; BS, Bloomsburg State College; MA, Rider University (New Jersey)
Edward G. Rendell, D, 2003-2011; BA, Penn; JD, Villanova


Tom Corbett, R, 2011 - ? ; BA, Lebanon Valley College; JD, St. Mary's School of Law (Texas)
Official biographies state: "Tom Corbett received his undergraduate degree from Lebanon Valley College in Annville, Pennsylvania, and taught civics and history in Pine Grove Area High School in Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania." Years of graduation are not given.

According to Wikipedia: Early history of Lebanon Valley College

"The College was founded by and initially associated with the Church of the United Brethren in Christ. Today, Lebanon Valley College is affiliated with the United Methodist Church, which happened through a series of church mergers: The Church of the United Brethren in Christ merged with the Evangelical Synod of North America in 1946 creating the Evangelical United Brethren Church (EUB), which subsequently merged with the Methodist Church in 1968 to create the United Methodist Church. The ties to the Methodist Church are not as strong as they once were, which is evidenced by the lack of mandatory chapel services, but the church maintains a presence on the campus. Out of 34 colleges and academies founded by the United Brethren in Christ Church, Lebanon Valley was one of four to survive."

Corbett, born in 1949,would have done an undergrad degree approximately 1967 - 1971. A graduation year has never been given for his bachelor's degree, as far as I could find. Anyone else found anything? Maybe he took more than 4 years to complete a degree? What is more interesting is that Corbett's family is Roman Catholic and was living in suburban Pittsburgh when he finished high school and started college at this little-known school on the other side of the state (around 1600 total enrollment). When he started there, it would have been affiliated with the United Brethren in Christ Church. A year later when there was a merger of churches, it became affiliated with the Methodist Church. During his years there, there were mandatory chapel services. This would be anathema to a practicing Catholic. Back then we were still being told we could not even attend a relative's wedding in a non-Catholic church, let alone attend regular worship services. So there are some bumps under the rug, so to speak as to why he attended a tiny, private, out of the way, Protestant college. Definitely not in the GOP tradition.

After graduating from this small school, the best job he could get was teaching 9th grade for one year before going all the way to Texas to a bottom ranked, private, (i.e, a damned sight more expensive than in state tuition at Pitt) law school. For the same or MUCH less tuition he could have attended Pitt, Duquesne, Dickinson or Temple law schools. Maybe he couldn't get accepted to them right after college and it took him a year to find a law school which would accept him.

GETTING TURNED DOWN TO ATTEND PITT, PENN STATE OR OTHER STATE RELATED COLLEGES AND LAW SCHOOLS WOULD CERTAINLY EXPLAIN HIS VICIOUS, UNPRECEDENTED SLASHING OF THEIR BUDGETS, WOULDN'T IT? Perhaps for Governor Corbett, revenge is indeed a dish best served cold!

The received wisdom in the legal profession is that you attend law school in the state in which you hope to practice law or run for office, unless you are bright enough to get admitted to one of the top 10 or so law schools, which have national prestige.

The reasonable explanation for why he went to the schools he did is that he couldn't get accepted at higher ranked and less expensive colleges or law schools. When he went to St. Mary's, it was a 4th tier (bottom of the barrel) ranked law school. St. Mary's law grads have trouble even getting jobs in the school's hometown, San Antonio, let alone elsewhere in Texas, let alone in other states.

Everyone always wanted to see Bush's Yale transcripts. I would love to see Corbett's transcripts from high school on.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 05:51 PM
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14. You know, he doesn't strike me as being very bright.
This information explains a lot!

Thanks! :)
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 07:38 PM
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18. I wondered about St. Mary's because I knew he was a Pittsburgh local.
Corbett looks like a person whose career has been advanced through political affiliations rather than brains or talent.
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:30 AM
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20. Well that and...
Campaign contributions don't hurt....
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