UK: Gypsy and black Caribbean pupils more likely to be excluded

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Children & Young People Now

Gypsy and black Caribbean pupils more likely to be excluded
By Joe Lepper
Children & Young People Now
9 October 2009

Children from Gypsy and Traveller communities are five times more likely to be excluded from school, latest figures have revealed.
This is the first time the government's figures for permanent exclusion and suspensions from school have included a breakdown by ethnicity.

The figures for 2007/8 show that the overall rate of permanent exclusion had dropped slightly from 0.12 per cent to 0.11 per cent of the total school population.

However, the rate was at 0.56 per cent among children from Gypsy/Roma communities and at a similar level, 0.53 per cent, for travellers of Irish heritage.

Black Caribbean pupils are three times more likely to be permanently excluded or suspended, the figures also revealed.



Read more: http://www.cypnow.co.uk/news/ByDiscipline/Education/944662/Gypsy-black-Caribbean-pupils-likely-excluded/

[vadawg]

1. well i guess we need to see the percentages of gypsy and travellers who break the rules

and therefore merit expulsion. Sometimes its racism and sometimes the biggest offenders happen to be a minority...

[Jeep789]

2. Would you also want to look at the reasons

they supposedly break the rules more often? Or would you rather just chalk that up to be of an "inferior" race? Your post seems to indicate you would choose the latter.

[Nihil]

4. Rather than suggesting that a poster is racist for pointing out the obvious ...

... why don't you consider two important points on this subject:

1) A large number of Gypsy/Traveller children do not attend the same school for
a significant amount of time because they move out of the area. Another facet of
this activity is that one "genuine 100% justified exclusion" travelling child will
likely be excluded from more schools than their corresponding "house-based" oppo
as the movement between areas makes tracking and appropriate response harder for
the education authorities yet each such exclusion will contribute to the "five
times more likely" statistic of the OP.

2) The example that the children are set by the adults in their "culture" is
not one that encourages adherence to "the rules". There is little or no pressure
that can be brought on the parents (unlike those who are home-based) and one
result of this is that those children whose behaviour leads to exclusion have
no fear or concerns about this as a punishment.

There again, you can just carry on posting crap from a distant position of
sheer ignorance in the hope that your politically correct response will gain
you some brownie points from similarly ignorant readers.

:shrug:

[dipsydoodle]

6. What you've written

is complete bollocks.

[Rapier09]

3. In the case of Gypsies and travellers

There is often some serious behavior issues but there is also a society extremely and openly prejudiced against them.

[dipsydoodle]

5. Its not a racial or ethnicity problem

its purely individuals within those groups.