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mrsadm Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:17 PM
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Let's get to work on 2006 and 2008
1. Let's learn what happened this year... how do we apply those lessons
2. Let's get those electronic voting machines to have paper trails
3. Start now to take back the House and Senate in 2006
4. New tactics are needed to combat the lies, spin, and right wing talk shows (radio and TV) e.g. "brainwash the plebians"
5. Hillary in 2008? Eight more years of a Clinton will be wonderful revenge!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:18 PM
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1. We might as well declare it now if Hillary runs in 2008
She could never win. Republicans hate her.
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DixieDem Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:21 PM
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2. Yea, well they hated Bill too and HE won! Go Hillary!
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:22 PM
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3. BARACK OBAMA or JOHN EDWARDS in 2008
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:23 PM
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4. absolutely love the sound of that
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:25 PM
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5. Forget Hillary..
I wouldn't even vote for her!!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:25 PM
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6. Dem's should run on only one promise in 2006.
"Put us back in power and we'll impeach Bush and put the corporate crooks on trial."

Other than that let the GOP have it's way with America. Let them find out what damage an unrestrained GOP can do. At least half of them deserve what they get.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:28 PM
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7. That Makes Me Sick.
Oh! Oh!

Well, we lost.
That's life.
Oh, well.
Be a good sport.
Take it like a man.
Better luck next time.

If your strategy to save our republic is accepting that this was a normal election and we just have to "get to work on 2006 and 2008" -- like those will be normal elections ... Then we're screwed.

This is the big one ... unless action is taken now to stop this imposition of tyrany, there will not be elections in the future to plan for.
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InhaleToTheChief Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:29 PM
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8. Dunno about Hillary...
...the dislike of her runs pretty deep. But the idea of Bill as the First Lady is a riot to me :)
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:35 PM
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9. here's what we need to do
It won't be easy.

The republican party has been busy during the Clinton years, gathering power LOCALLY.

- They started with the gun control issue and that cost us heavily as the GOP got the NRA out in each district to spread the Vote Repub or Lose Your Gun message. We lost control of majority in both House and Senate because of that.

- They continued by using their resources to win control of KEY states: Jeb Bush in Florida, Benson in NH cost us the 2000 election. More recently Arnold in CA (this was a concerted effort, involving Haliburton), and also in NJ. Now with these states in republican hands, they control the election process (including the use of eVoting, which IMHO, is wrong without a paper trail, but doesn't matter if we don't control the process) AS WELL as the districting. We can expect to lose more electoral power in the next 4 years. We will be lucky to keep CA under democratic control, and if that happens, we will see many decades of GOP presidents.

- They will continue to eat into democratic strongholds until they own them, catering to cultural issues over policy.

- They have out strategized the democrats and what have the democrats really done? Nothing, but focus on the big prizes. Well, unless we focus on the little things, congressional seats, senate seats, governers, we will continue to lose. And we have to fight each of these as if it was this last presidential election. Otherwise we are faced with not just 8 years of a miserable failure, but decade after decade of miserable failures.

- We need new leadership in the democratic party that will play the game as it needs to be played. We can't do it without a driving strategy, which IMHO, we have lacked. How could we run two superior candidates for Prez, and lose both elections? Because we aren't playing the game where the rules are being created by the other side. We need to start making the rules.

I call out for new leadership and a new party organization. We need to eat into the republican party and split them up. It IS completely possible to do this, especially now. We must take back seats in 2006 and we must fight for these like we just fought in this election.
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byronm Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:35 PM
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10. I agree
no more pussyfooting around.

* We need to unite small businesses

* We need to buy into the healthcare system - prove social healthcare works

* We need to put our money where our mouth is over the course of the next 4 years. If the environment is high on your list - buy up "pollution credits" so it will force polluters to fix their sh*t. Support local democrats in local elections - make sure your towns and cities work in harmony and spread the word up.

* We need to stand united and take this as a lesson

* We need to talk to the UN and other nations and express our concerns to make sure we bring people to the table. If the president won't recognize the 48% that voted against him, then lets make sure we get that recognition.

Don't GIVE UP!!!!! This battle isn't over.
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archineas Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:38 PM
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11. howard dean was right
we have to start taking our nation back by beginning in our neighborhoods.

let's get to work! if we start today we stand a better chance of making gains in '06 and '08.

progressives look forward...and that's what i'm doing today.

j
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:44 PM
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12. Enough with "Hillary in 2008!" already!
She CANNOT win in this country. If * beat out Kerry, how in the WORLD can you possibly think that Hillary could win?! If she were the nomination for 2008, we may as well give up.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:54 PM
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13. MEDIA MEDIA MEDIA MEDIA
Air America was too little, too late, but it is a START. We need to work on fairness in the media. It is our only hope.
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:57 PM
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14. Focus on #2
YES to all of the above organizing ideas -- but if we don't have voter-verified paper trails by 2006 all of our powers of persuasion may well be for naught.

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