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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:19 PM
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Credible sources with info on election fraud?
I need a few online sources that explain in plain talk what has been going on with election fraud since 2000. Factual information, without a lot of speculation, is important.

I've searched, found some good things but didn't recognize the source of the information, so I thought I'd come to the experts here for advice.

I'm going to attempt to make a few Repug contacts understand just how horrid the people they support are.

Thanks in advance.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:46 PM
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1. Some suggestions.
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 09:51 PM by Stevepol
The recent RFK Rolling Stone article is a gold mine about the OH theft, and of course Mark Crispin Miller's "Fooled Again."

If I were you, I'd google the information about Hagel's 83% victory in NE in 96, where the votes were counted by a company he headed just prior to resigning so he could run for office (AIS, which became ES&S). Thom Hartmann is a good source for this I believe, a pretty well known progressive voice and excellent writer.

Also, google the GA 02 election fraud where Barnes and Cleland lost due to the Diebold, paperless machines being installed that year. Notice the pre-election polling. If you're doing research, you may have to pay to get access to the Atlanta Journal Constitution articles dealing with the pre-election polling. The exit polls were dropped very soon, evidently because they showed the same thing that the pre-election polls showed.

Then, google the OH referendum of 05 which seems plainly fraud. Bob Koehler, I believe has some excellent articles about this particular bit of fraud.

Check out Steve Freeman for statistical support.

TIA has a web site still I think. He's a very good statistician and has a knack for putting the figures into easily understood formats. His figures are obtained I believe from the same screen shots of the CNN Edison Mitofsky poll used by Freeman and everybody else analyzing the 04 election.

Just google election fraud 04 or any other such thing and check out the articles, one thing will lead to another. There are a large number of people on this site who can help you, Autorank and Land Shark come to mind, but there are many others. Maybe some will chime in here to help.

The main point is this: When the vote is counted on secret, proprietary software programmed by extreme partisans essentially without audit, meaning there's no meaningful way to verify the results, YOU CANNOT HAVE A DEMOCRACY PERIOD. That's the bottom line. Anybody can understand this. Anybody.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:07 PM
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2. For Your Republican Friends...
Maybe Chuck Herrin's treatise in which he explains to his fellow Republicans why they'd better care about Election Fraud:
http://www.chuckherrin.com/ConservativeEmpathy.htm

Herrin is a high-powered computer professional who knows whereof he speaks.

I'd also recommend these pages from Chuck's site:

http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevotedemo.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/SpeedHackTheVote.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevoteFAQ.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/GEMSDemo.pps


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