Please DU This Poll About E-voting! (And K&R!)

[Bill Bored]

OK, you know what to say folks:

Would you prefer Suffolk County (NY) to upgrade to electronic voting machines or keep the old lever machines?

http://www.cablevisioneditorials.com/

So far we're at:

Electronic 17%
Lever 83%

Can we do better?

Please K&R!

[jdadd]

1. Done

Electronic 10%
Lever 90

[IntravenousDemilo]

2. I don't like either choice.

The only choice worth considering is paper ballots that you mark with an X and are hand-counted by non-partisan election staff.

So yes, you can do better.

[Bill Bored]

6. No problem. You may record an intentional undervote. nt

[dave502d]

3. Done. 93% now.n/t

[I Have A Dream]

4. Done. n/t

[Melissa G]

5. K&R. done 93% n/t

[Bill Bored]

7. Thanks!

:hi:
Now 89% to 11%!

[FogerRox]

8. I pulled the LEVER KNR

[Bill Bored]

10. Thanks New Jersey! (One more needed for the front page!) nt

[Wilms]

9. Lever Fever in NY!

And PA is voting on WHAT now?

They should have read the law.

[eomer]

11. Here you go, Bill, I just 'R'ed it to the Greatest Page. (eom)

[Bill Bored]

16. Thanks! Gore would be President if FL ran the 2000 election on levers...

...because they don't allow overvotes!

[greeneyedboy]

12. done. lever at 94%. n/t

[byronius]

13. Kickalotto.

[DeeDeeNY]

14. Levers are not as good as paper

But it's definitely better than electronic. The only problem is that those lever machines are getting very old,
and if they break down, I wonder if they still have parts available to repair them.

[Bill Bored]

15. They don't fail as often as DREs and DREs are ALLOWED to fail

under federal standards -- a LOT!

See:
http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1851&Itemid=26

And so are scanners.

Parts? I would think a machine shop could make parts for lever machines, but how do you fix a proprietary electronic vote-counting system? A trip to Radio Shack maybe, assuming you can reverse-engineer the thing!

[DeeDeeNY]

17. Okay

Thanks for the link.
The lever machines I vote on in Suffolk County, NY are fairly old, and I heard someone say last time that they haven't made new lever machines in many years, and the old ones can't be repaired. But I actually have no idea whether that's true or not, and in any case you make a good point that parts could always be made.

[FogerRox]

18. >

:kick:

[Cookie wookie]

19. done n/t

[cosmicdot]

20. kick

[The Brethren]

21. Voted

it's now at:

Electronic 5%
Lever 95%

not too shabby. :dem:

[katinmn]

22. 95% lever

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

23. what if the entire country used levers in 2008?

Imagine how hard Rove would have to work to ship out little metal
files all over the country.

Agh, no modems, no wireless, no ballot definition files, no freezing screens.

Shoot, it would be too hard!

[Bill Bored]

24. And you could tell that something was amiss by the high undervote rates!

In 2004, they were < 1% on levers, which was among the lowest of all methods. And unlike the other stuff, undervotes on levers actually mean something because that's about the only thing that can go wrong with them.

A high undervote rate would lead to an immediate investigation, the results of which would have to be accepted by both sides based on the physical evidence that the machines had been tampered with.

Looks like the poll is finished. I think it ended up 95% to 5% in favor of keeping levers. Thanks to all who participated!