Hardee county, FL shows 118% turn out

[floridadem30]

This county is registered 63.8% Dem and 26.7% R yet only 32.36% dem showed up election day and 66.81% rep showed up. As for absentee and early voting 72.16 R and 27.25 D. If you scroll down to the second page of this site you will see the turnout % is 118.33% and the number of votes is more than registered.

http://www.hardeecountyelections.com/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT%2011-02-05.pdf

P.S. can someone please save this site to their hardrive my computer has shut down twice trying to.

[jsamuel]

1. This is misleading and a red hairing, it went Republican in 2000 also

However, it did increase by an unexpected and an unexplained amount. Other than that, there is nothing to prove fraud.

[floridadem30]

2. I am not trying to prove fraud, just trying to show a pattern.

Several other counties show this pattern as well.

[floridadem30]

4. I wasn't trying to be impolite his message said the word fraud

[Eloriel]

3. If you'll re-read his post, he didn't allege that

sheesh.

[floridadem30]

5. Thank you Eloriel

[jsamuel]

8. Sorry, I didn't mean to be confrontational, I was just trying to keep...

us from talking about the same things over again. This idea of Dems voting Rep in Florida couties has been brought up over and over again by people trying to claim that we are wrong. Why? Becuase these same counties have gone Republican in the last few elections. It is a problem because they will not listen to anything else we say because they keep pointing the same thing out over and over again in order to discredit us. I saw the same pattern myself and was very angry at first, then after looking at the same couties from 2000, I realized that it was not as it seemed. However, these couties did go much more Republican this time than last time.


2000

County Bush Bush Change Gore Gore Change
Alachua 34,135 - 47,380 -
Baker 5,611 - 2,392 -
Bay 38,682 - 18,873 -
Bradford 5,416 - 3,075 -
Brevard 115,253 - 97,341 -
Broward 177,939 - 387,760 -
Calhoun 2,873 - 2,156 -
Charlott 35,428 - 29,646 -
Citrus 29,801 - 25,531 -
Clay 41,903 - 14,668 -
Collier 60,467 - 29,939 -
Columbia 10,968 - 7,049 -
Dade 289,704 130 329,165 298
De Soto 4,256 - 3,321 -
Dixie 2,697 - 1,827 -
Duval 152,460 - 108,039 -
Escambia 73,177 6 40,999 9
Flagler 12,618 - 13,897 -
Franklin 2,454 - 2,047 -
Gadsden 4,770 - 9,736 -
Gilchris 3,300 - 1,910 -
Glades 1,841 - 1,442 -
Gulf 3,553 - 2,398 -
Hamilton 2,147 - 1,723 -
Hardee 3,765 - 2,342 -
Hendry 4,747 - 3,240 -
Hernando 30,658 - 32,648 -
Highland 20,207 - 14,169 -
Hilsboro 180,794 - 169,576 -
Holmes 5,012 - 2,177 -
Indianrv 28,639 - 19,769 -
Jackson 9,139 - 6,870 -
Jeffrson 2,478 - 3,041 -
Lafayete 1,670 - 789 -
Lake 50,010 - 36,571 -
Lee 106,151 - 73,571 -
Leon 39,073 - 61,444 -
Levy 6,863 - 5,398 -
Liberty 1,317 - 1,018 1
Madison 3,040 2 3,019 4
Manatee 58,035 12 49,240 14
Marion 55,146 - 44,674 -
Martin 33,972 - 26,621 -
Monroe 16,063 - 16,487 -
Nassau 16,408 - 6,955 -
Okaloosa 52,186 - 16,989 -
Okeechob 5,057 - 4,589 -
Orange 134,560 29 140,283 47
Osceola 26,245 8 28,198 11
Palmbech 153,291 327 270,257 503
Pasco 68,607 - 69,576 -
Pinellas 184,851 2 200,658 1
Polk 90,310 - 75,207 -
Putnam 13,457 - 12,107 -
St Johns 39,564 - 19,509 -
St Lucie 34,705 - 41,560 -
Sntarosa 36,350 11 12,820 2
Sarasota 83,117 - 72,869 -
Seminole 75,790 - 59,227 -
Sumter 12,127 - 9,637 -
Suwannee 8,013 4 4,077 1
Taylor 4,058 - 2,649 -
Union 2,332 - 1,407 -
Volusia 82,368 - 97,313 -
Wakulla 4,512 - 3,838 -
Walton 12,186 - 5,643 -
Washngtn 4,995 - 2,798 -
TOTALS 2,913,321 531 2,913,144 891

[Roger_Otip]

6. 118% turnout is strange though

what's going on there?

[SW FL Dem]

20. You have to count the NPA's

No Party Affiliations make up as much as 1/3 of the registered voters in several FL counties. In fact the new registrations after 2000 were pretty much split 1/3 Dem. 1/3 Rep and 1/3 NPA.

[jsamuel]

21. Yes, but they are talking about all registered voters = 118% turnout

More votes than eligable voters, period.

[bemis12]

22. They don't appear to have voted

Only 7,100 votes were cast for president. "Turnout" should equate "voted". Obviously, they did not. The turnout number must be something else, some mishmash of other info. Regardless, they didn't vote.

[floridadem30]

23. actually according to state only 7284 voted not 7101

[floridadem30]

24. and included in this is the 19 provisional ballots but why don't #s match

[bemis12]

25. Fair enough

At any rate, not the 14,000 that the first page in the pdf shows. The number who vote is the turnout.

[floridadem30]

26. This is the supervisor of elections website I am posting maybe we should

ask them why they posted these numbers. I am not a number cruncher just looks funny.

[EST]

12. Herring

(Signed, Spelling and Context Police)

[peacetalksforall]

7. Is this a tri-fecta?

1. Registered vs physical voters - numbers reversed in favor of Bush by wide margin. D reg 64 Pub reg 27 & WE HAVE! D phys 32 Pub phys 67
2. Registered absentee and early voters - numbers reversed in favor of Bush by wide margin. & WE HAVE! D a and e 37 vs Pub a and e 72
3. Turnout of voters - 100% plus 18.33 %

WAY TO GO HARDEE COUNTY, FL.! JEB WILL BE PROUD! SO WILL BARBARA!

[floridadem30]

9. The main page has a post that just went up comparing trends in fl

[EST]

10. Done, 34 pages pdf file

[floridadem30]

11. thank you

[jsamuel]

13. In 2000, only 6,000 people voted in Hardee county, in 2004 - 14,562

Good point, sorry for jumping to conclusions...

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[floridadem30]

15. what numbers do you have for jefferson cnty?

[jsamuel]

16. 5,500 voted in Jefferson County in 2000...

...Hmmm 2004?

[floridadem30]

18. 7501 in jefferson in 04 net loss to dem -23.6 We did win county

however it is strange that 6884 was early and absentee and bush gained a lot of votes here.

[bemis12]

17. 14,000? I see 7,000

Not sure what that first page means, but the second page shows the votes. There were 7,100. That corresponds with the reported election results also.

[floridadem30]

19. you need to go to the web page and compare the results with this info

[EST]

14. Nada.

Let me know if/when you need it.