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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:55 PM
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What's the general concensus around here on Eric Alterman?
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:57 PM
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1. read what liberal media
it's eye opening.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:02 PM
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6. I might though his latest book seems more interesting to me...
Is his analysis of the media on par with Chomsky's (I know Alterman's not a Chomsky fan)?
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:50 PM
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18. I have read a lot of Chomsky but not any specifiably about media
So I am not able to directly compare. I thought Alterman's analysis was pretty accurate.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 PM
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2. adorable and smart. Why doesn't Janeane date him???
she might be surprised...
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 PM
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5. I think he's already married.
He does have a kid at any rate. Of course, maybe that shouldn't stop Janeane from dating him.:evilgrin:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:11 PM
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10. Janene is also married
At least I read that somewhere on the internets, they said she'd gotten married and although they weren't together now they'd never bothered to get divorced... :shrug:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:24 AM
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20. I'm pretty sure I saw him at my daughter's school with his child
a couple of weeks ago, a public school on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. If that was him and he was pickin up his child, I'm impressed he sends his kid to public school, because he probably doesn't have to.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:25 AM
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21. Read Sound and Fury: The Rise of the Punditocracy
which was one of the first books to really dissect the awfulness of modern, cable-era media whoredom. I read it because it was recommended on Media Whores Online, and I wasn't disappointed.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 PM
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3. Love 'im.
I would cut this man's grass for a decade.

Just let him keep up the fine, fine writing.

If life were really fair, Eric Alterman would have been my older brother.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 PM
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4. Coined The Phrase SCLM (so called liberal media)- wrote the book
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:06 PM
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9. Yes.
I followed him from early on, in those early columns for THE NATIION.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:12 PM
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11. What's his best book - in your opinion?
Also, have you read "The Book on Bush" or his latest "When Presidents Lie"?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:14 PM
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12. I haven't yet gotten to the new one --
-- but plan to.

I loved WHAT LIBERAL MEDIA? because I had grown so weary of hearing conservatives bitch about how liberal the media were.

I thought to myself, "Well, show me which media you're talking about and I will by god SUBSCRIBE."

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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:19 PM
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13. How does his analysis of the media compare to Chomksy's?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:46 PM
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15. Haven't read Chomsky.
I like Alterman because he covers such a vast range with a kind of human sure-footedness.

As I said up there earlier, in a fairer world, he would have been my older brother.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:17 PM
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25. I've bought "When Presidents Lie"
But right now it's sitting patiently on my "to-read" shelves, waiting for me to finish Gaiman's "American Gods" and some nonfic about the decision to become a parent.
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Lauren2882 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:58 AM
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26. Got "When Presidents Lie" as a gift for my dad for xmas...
Read 80 pages of it on the plane home. Found it riveting. Hard to part wtih it come Christmas day. He read it in 10 days and found it very informative.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:03 PM
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7. I think he's great.
I really loved his book What Liberal Media?. I've liked everything of his that I've read, although I admit I haven't been keeping up with his blog the way I'd like to.
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:06 PM
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8. He's great. His books are a must-read for DU'ers. eom
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:23 PM
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14. Jutht needth to work on that lithp...
Got "What Liberal Media?" on CD, and listening to him tongue-thrust his way through the whole thing was maddening -- distracted from a lot of his points.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:13 PM
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16. I love his Nation columns
And I read Altercation every day.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:19 PM
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17. A fair journalist who gets better every year.
I think he's also become more self-controlled. In the late '90s, he used to write articles for an online discussion "magazine/forum" called Intellectual Capital. His stuff was good, but not as good as it is now, and he would get quite emotional sometimes when discussing with the right wingers there (who were, as right wingers go, actually quite able to argue and discuss -- nothing like the freeperville creeps of today). He doesn't seem to let his emotions carry hiim anymore, which makes him a stronger advocate.

I don't think we've seen the best of Alterman yet. And, yes, that's a compliment.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:51 AM
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19. I find that I agree with him alot
except on music and NYC.
I have been reading Altercation (his blog on MSNBC) for a while now, but I found "The Book on Bush" to be kinda dry. I have not gotten very far in it. But these days, I do not read much away from the computer anyway.
I think you can read alot of his short work at The Nation on-line.
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:29 AM
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22. It's "concensus", not "general concensus". n/t
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Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:30 PM
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24. No it isn't; it's "consensus" (n/t)
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:58 PM
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23. His take on American news media is spot-on IMHO--
and his writing is interesting and entertaining--not dry and scholarly--but smart! Always smart! I check out his blog a couple times a week, too.
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