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Sandrine for you Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:24 AM
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The Pope publish a text against individual liberty and democracy in a neo-nazi publication
January, 2009. Karl to Öllinger, an Austrian environmentalist deputy who specialized in the fight against the prosperous extreme right in its country, falls on a special issue of the magazine(review) Die Aula, appeared on the occasion of the 150th anniversary(birthday) of the German revolution of 1848. In the middle of the inventions of Holocaust deniers of extreme right-wing members of parliament and members of the German neo-Nazi party NDP, he(it) falls - astounded - on a text signed by the cardinal Ratzinger.

In fact, a virulent load against the personal freedoms and the democratic system, which today still, can be consulted in Vienna.

The link for those who can read the german, you can find the text there:

http://www.doew.at/
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:40 AM
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1. I can't find that story there
But here it is, in English, from Der Spiegel:

In 1997, Ratzinger -- who at the time was head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith -- allowed Austrian publisher Aula-Verlag to use a text that he had written for a collection of essays to mark the 150th anniversary of 1848, a year of revolution in Germany as elsewhere. The editors of this book entitled "1848 -- Erbe und Auftrag" (1848 -- Heritage and Mission) were Otto Scrinzi and Jürgen Schwab, two well-known leading figures among German-speaking right-wing extremists who have never made a secret of their political beliefs.

In early February 2009, Karl Öllinger, a Green Party member of Austrian parliament, criticized Ratzinger for the publication at Aula-Verlag and urged that Benedict's role in the debate over the ultra-conservative Pius brotherhood be re-evaluated. The spokesman of the archdiocese of Vienna declined to accept the invitation.

According to Kathpress, an Austrian Catholic news agency, Ratzinger was "evidently not asked for his permission to publish the article." According to correspondence between then Aula magazine editor Gerhoch Reisegger and the Vatican -- and seen by SPIEGEL -- that claim is incorrect.

On Sept. 18, 1997 Reisegger asked "His Eminence Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger" for "permission to reprint" the article that was published in the magazine Communio in 1995. "The monthly magazine Aula of the Libertarian Academic Associations of Austria " wanted to comment on Ratzinger's "exceptional thoughts" on the "confusion" surrounding the 150th anniversary of the Revolution of 1848.

Only 12 days later, Ratzinger's secretary, Monsignore Josef Clemens, gave Reisegger the green light: "In response to your friendly letter … I may on behalf of Cardinal Ratzinger inform you that he has approved the printing of his essay … in the monthly magazine Aula of the Libertarian Academic Associations of Austria."
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,613756,00.html
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Sandrine for you Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:55 AM
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2. IT"s not the story, it"s the text itself, but thank"s for the Spiegel !! nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:35 AM
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3. Here's another story. His thoughts on democracy are appalling.
Initially, there was no discussion of a book project, but Reisegger informed Monsignore Clemens on Oct. 6, 1997 that instead of printing the essay in the monthly magazine, it was possible that a “special issue on the topic of 1848″ would be printed in order to take a “critical look at liberalism, freemasonry,” and “the Revolution of 1848.” Reisegger made no mention of who would edit this book.

Nevertheless, the mere mention of the name of this Austrian publishing house alone should have set off alarm bells throughout the Vatican. Only three years earlier, Aula had made headlines well beyond the borders of Austria. The magazine’s editor, Herwig Nachtmann, had come out in support of Holocaust denier Walter Lüftl. In his article “The Laws of Nature Apply to both Nazis and Anti-Fascists,” the head of Aula praised Lüftl’s report — called “Holocaust, Belief and Facts,” published in 1992 — as a “milestone on the road to truth.” The resulting bad publicity even prompted Jörg Haider’s far-right Austrian Freedom Party (FPÖ) — which had until then used Aula as a party organ — to distance itself from the magazine and its publisher, and to discontinue all financial support.

Whether this went unnoticed in the Vatican is, however, not the decisive question. The fact is that the Ratzinger text itself contains disturbing passages. Under the headline “Criticism of Democracy,” the cardinal writes: “The feeling that democracy is not yet the right form of freedom is fairly common and is increasingly widespread…. How free are elections? … Is there not an oligarchy of those who decide what is modern and progressive, what an enlightened individual should think? … And what of the decision-making process in the bodies of democratic representation? … Who could doubt the power of interest groups, whose dirty hands are increasingly visible? And is the system of a majority and a minority really a system of freedom in the first place?”

In the eyes of the Aula staff, so much mistrust of democracy apparently marked the beginning of a beautiful friendship. When the cardinal was elected as pope, they rejoiced: “Hail to your arrival, protector of the devout. As a Hitler Youth and a member of the anti-aircraft corps, he protected his people against the Anglo-American bomb holocaust! Is the Holy Father now fighting with determination against the baby holocaust?”


http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=20352
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:52 PM
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4. Hold on...just a second...
:popcorn:

Ok, please continue.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:07 PM
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5. Here's a list of Ratzinger's Communio publications. Which one is under discussion here?
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 03:07 PM by struggle4progress
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:51 PM
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6. This one, I think: "Truth and Freedom." - listed as "Freiheit und Wahrheit (1995)" in the index
In German: http://ivv7srv15.uni-muenster.de/mnkg/pfnuer/Freiheit-u-Wahrheit.html#II._Die_Problematik_

English: http://www.ewtn.com/library/THEOLOGY/TRUEFREE.HTM

I can't say it reads like "democracy is wrong"; more like "democracy can be hijacked by powerful interests, and it's never going to give you true freedom". He, of course, says you must turn to religion for that.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 04:04 PM
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7. Thanks. If one reads that piece in its entirety, it turns out to be a response to
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 04:04 PM by struggle4progress
someone else's claim that the Enlightenment insights are exhausted and should be replaced, a view that Ratzinger explicitly disavows

It's not a particularly well-written piece: I think what he's trying to say is that Enlightenment notions of human freedom only make sense if one considers freedom as involving relationships with other people, based on truth and ethics, and his crafting of this message is unclear and tendentious
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