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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:07 PM Original message |
The Surprising Truth: Christians Once Banned Christmas |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. no shit, really? |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Actually the way we celebrate xmas today is different then the way it was celebrated for most of |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. That can't quite be right, since O. Henry's "Gift of the Magi" was published in 1905 |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Good catch. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. it's completely incorrect |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Of course, "Santa Claus" is a corruption "Sain'Ni cholas" whose saint day is 6 December: |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. try "Miracle on 34th Street" |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yeah that is the movie I was thinking and I was wrong as it sems the way we celebrate christmas |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Then the Germans weren't either |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Santa is often associated with Odin. :-) |
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Kucinich Feingold (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Really? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Ya rly!!! |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. The Puritains where much like the tea baggers today |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Can't stand anyone else having a modicum of fun. nt |
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mikekj (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's because....... |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. I do not know when it was adopted |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Easter is also a pagan holiday. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The paschal feast, and its date, is closely connected with judaism, a mediterranean religion, |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Wrong! |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Gesundheit |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. So where do bunnies and eggs fit into Judaic tradition? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. My remark was specific and limited |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The egg is very ancient tradition: here is St Augustine |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Bunnies have essentially nothing to do with Easter tradition: they seem to have arisen |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Human beings were celebrating astronomically-related events for millenia. |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Piggybacked? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yes, piggybacked. |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Not rose-colored |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. or Joseph Campbell's Greek mythology |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I'm sorry, you appear to be arguing with this guy: |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Nativity was nothing to cheer about. |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The birth of the Chirst child is why it was we celebrate today though in all likely hood |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. everything you just wrote is historically wrong. |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Boy! You sure got me. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. That was only one small part of the Christian world. you talk about |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Puritanism -- the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. The Puritans really hated to see anyone having a good time, BUT |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Sounds like they were mean drunks....n/t |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Puritan legal research is even more interesting. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. It is common for people to make things sacrid to elevate there postioins. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. .... |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I would guess that is photo shop, right? |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 04:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Click the photo, it's linked to the website. n/t |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I will just chalk that up to label trap, and disregard it. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Actually.... |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. Christmas trees were forbidden when I was little |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. Cotton Mather, in the 1670's, wrote a sermon... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
32. Indeed! That's what I always say when the issue comes up |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
47. Puritains hate fun, what else is new? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. That's a surprise only to those who don't know history |
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Still Blue in PDX (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
52. Many fundy churches disapprove of holidays with Pagan roots, e.g., Christmas and Easter. |
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