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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:15 PM
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Where did religion come from?
Religion in Human Evolution:

11/2/2011
posted by Robert N. Bellah

The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.
—Albert Einstein

The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless.
—Steven Weinberg

When an interviewer for the Atlantic Monthly blog asked me “What prompted you to write this book?” I apparently replied, “Deep desire to know everything: what the universe is and where we are in it.” I don’t deny that I said it—it’s just that I would have thought I would have given a more pedestrian reply, because I am a sociologist, with a Ph.D. in my discipline and some 40 years experience as a professor at Harvard and Berkeley. And I am quite aware that early in the last century Max Weber, in a famous 1918 talk called “Science as a Vocation,” warned that “science has entered a phase of specialization previously unknown and this will forever remain the case.” It does seem that he didn’t apply this dictum to himself, but he was talking about the future when huge projects like his own would no longer be possible. So what is this “deep desire to know everything” in a world of super-specialization? When I look at books like Robert Wright’s The Evolution of God, Nicholas Wade’s The Faith Instinct, Pascal Boyer’s Religion Explained: The Evolutionary Origins of Religious Thought. and Scott Atran’s In Gods We Trust: The Evolutionary Landscape of Religion, recent books that might seem parallel to my own new book, I can only say Weber was right—these books should not have been written, or, to be charitable, they may be good journalism but they are not serious contributions to understanding.

Weber was certainly right that we are in a world of specialization, and dangerously close to the point where specialized work is only intelligible to other specialists. A few years ago a study found that over half of sociology professors couldn’t understand many articles in the ASR or the AJS. Are we living in a world of ever increasing knowledge and ever declining meaning? In the end all that specialized knowledge has to be put together again if it is to be of use. Yet, as I have suggested many of the books that purport to give the big picture are shockingly shallow, based on tertiary sources that only repeat tired clichés or on novel claims that have not been adequately evaluated. We have an enormous “external memory,” as Merlin Donald calls it. It is potentially part of our very selves if we know how to access it. But therein lies our problem.

I’m sure there will be some who will gladly throw my book on the same heap as those I have criticized, but I will try to show a third way, a way that could possibly overcome the split between knowledge and meaning. This way would be to take Weber seriously about specialization but to follow him in not giving up the search for the big picture. What that means is to try to learn a lot about quite a few things. We have more information available about biological and cultural evolution than anyone has ever had before. We have resources to access that knowledge, but it cannot be done quickly or on the cheap. The resources we now have, and I very much mean the web but also e-mail, and books, ever new books, allow us to become quasi-specialists in at least several fields.

It is now possible not only to find out a lot about many areas, but to find out if the real specialists think you are crazy or not. Some of these are people in the academic world one happens to know—for example the greatest specialist on Shang China in the world, David Keightley, Professor of Chinese history at Berkeley and an old friend, went over my section on Shang China with a fine-toothed comb and saved me from serious mistakes. I had read Terrence Deacon’s The Symbolic Species when it first came out in 1997 and had been very impressed by it, but when I realized over 10 years later that he actually teaches at Berkeley I went to hear him lecture and got acquainted. He and his group were especially helpful in reading my chapter on religion and evolution, giving me some advice, but telling me I was on the right track.

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2011/11/02/where-did-religion-come-from/
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:01 PM
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1. Some guy was too lazy to hunt
so he decided to be the shaman and stay home.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:08 PM
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2. I can't answer that, but read up on the Cargo Cults of the South Pacific
And you'll get a slight idea
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:13 PM
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3. the sun set (death), the sun rose again (resurrection) - any more questions? nt
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:05 PM
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4. Cooperation is crucial to our survival as a species.
It feels good to cooperate.

Religion makes people feel good together.

So does baseball.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:17 PM
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5. Wow! Having read his essay, I have to read his book.
The last thing I would have expected to prompt someone to write a book on religion is: Deep desire to know everything: what the universe is and where we are in it. But, reading his essay, I can definitely understand why he thinks this is a good place to start. I don't think it will really give him much of a jump on answering the question; but it will probably put him way ahead of most of us.

Thanks for posting that.
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