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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 01:17 PM
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Sooners and Badgers fall far. But Cowboys and Cardinal pass Broncos.
AP

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. LSU (49) 8-0 1489 1
2. Alabama (10) 8-0 1448 2
3. Oklahoma St. 7-0 1326 6
4. Stanford 7-0 1318 7
5. Boise St. (1) 7-0 1269 5
6. Clemson 8-0 1225 8
7. Oregon 6-1 1136 9
8. Arkansas 6-1 1003 10
9. Michigan St. 6-1 964 15
10. Kansas St. 7-0 945 12
11. Oklahoma 6-1 912 3
12. Wisconsin 6-1 887 4
13. Nebraska 6-1 756 13
14. South Carolina 6-1 675 14
15. Virginia Tech 7-1 673 16
16. Texas A&M 5-2 614 17
17. Michigan 6-1 508 18
18. Houston 7-0 400 21
19. Texas Tech 5-2 350 NR
20. USC 6-1 340 NR
21. Penn St. 7-1 312 NR
22. Georgia 5-2 290 24
23. Arizona St. 5-2 239 24
24. Cincinnati 6-1 71 NR
25. West Virginia 5-2 64 11

Others Receiving Votes:
Auburn 62,
Southern Miss 48,
Baylor 47,
Washington 32,
Georgia Tech 30,
Texas 26,
Syracuse 24,
Miami (FL) 6,
TCU 4,
Rutgers 3,
BYU 2,
Illinois 2

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 03:33 PM
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1. Dude! Boise State barely beat a very mediocre Air Force at Home!
:wtf:

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Carnage251 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:47 PM
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2. Boise has a weak schedule
I can't fathom why they even have a first place vote.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:24 PM
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3. Perhaps because schedule strength is an invention of idiots
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 07:25 PM by Awsi Dooger
I literally don't know one respected or successful handicapper who has ever used it. Twenty years ago the phrase basically didn't exist. These days the bar stool crowd has become so comfortably BCS brainwashed they act as if a team can't be evaluated other than who they have played. It's absolutely laughable. I supposed if Usain Bolt ran nothing but 10.5 for the next 9 months while running against grade schoolers we'd doubt he belongs in the London Olympics.

Boise State is a phenomenal team. Regarding the most recent result, triple option foes like Air Force are terrific in the role of huge underdog, and that has been true for only 40+ years, nothing serious. Not that I'd expect fans or media to pay attention. You might remember Air Force nearly defeated Oklahoma at Norman a few years ago.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:43 PM
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4. snaff
They'd be. 500 in the SEC
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:12 PM
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5. They're #4 in the BCS. But I think that the BCS is noy counting SOS as much as before.
1 LSU
2 Alabama
3 Oklahoma Stat
4 Boise State
5 Clemson
6 Stanford
7 Oregon
8 Kansas State
9 Oklahoma
10 Arkansas
11 Michigan State
12 Virginia Tech
13 South Carolina
14 Nebraska
15 Wisconsin
16 Texas A&M
17 Houston
18 Michigan
19 Penn State
20 Texas Tech
21 Arizona State
22 Georgia
23 Auburn
24 Texas
25 West Virginia
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:27 PM
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7. BCS is a fucking joke
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:37 PM
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8. That's why I want a Non AQ team like Boise State to win the BCS Championship.
To prove how wrong they are.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:23 AM
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9. No---playoffs
that way Boise will finally have some competition.
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Carnage251 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:30 PM
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6. All they play are no name teams
They don't deserve to be ranked higher than an undefeated teams with a tough SOS.

Really SOS is a invention of idiots?

You might remember Air Force "nearly defeated" Oklahoma at Norman a few years ago.

For the Usain Bolt comparison if he didn't qualify he wouldn't make it.

If you score perfect on elementary math and I score perfect on advance mathematics, I would've proven myself to be more worthy than you.

Also the best non-conference game they could schedule was Georgia.
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 01:44 PM
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10. Not sure I agree with this...
I would bet on Boise being undefeated against this schedule:

San Jose State
at Duke
at Arizona
UCLA
Colorado
at Washington State
Washington

and that's Stanford's schedule.

The best nonconference game they could schedule was Georgia, and speaking as a Georgia fan, they kicked our ass. We lost to South Carolina because we gave up 28 points on turnovers and special teams. Boise just whipped us. Kellen Moore is one of the smartest and most accurate QBs I've ever seen. I don't think there's a defense outside of LSU or Alabama who would rattle him. Their defense is tough.

Boise and Oklahoma State have one team in common on their schedule, Tulsa. Check out the stats:

Margin of victory:
Oklahoma State 26
Boise 20

Points:
Oklahoma State 59
Boise 41

Points against:
Oklahoma State 33
Boise 21

Yards gained (passing/rushing/total)
Oklahoma State 369/174/543
Boise 327/131/458

Yards against (passing/rushing/total)
Oklahoma State 117/365/482
Boise 136/195/291

Turnover margin
Oklahoma +4
Boise +3

I think Boise's defense could hold up against Okie State's schedule. I think that Boise could hold their own in a game against either OSU or Stanford.
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