If Sandusky allegations are true, Paterno must go

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This is seriously some fucked up shit. Check the Grand Jury report below for the 8 victims.

By Mike Wise, The Washington Post
Posted Nov. 06, 2011, at 6:04 a.m.

After what allegedly happened to “Victim 2,” a boy estimated to be 10 years old, in the same room where Penn State football players shower, it’s near impossible to keep reading the grand jury’s report. By “Victim 8,” numbness turns to anger.

You want to scream at the traumatized graduate assistant coach in 2002 and janitor in 2000 who saw and didn’t stop it, according to the report released by the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office. You want to grab hold of and shake those who reported the crime only to their superiors, washed their hands of responsibility and then let it go, treating a kid’s life as if it were a football that slipped through their hands.

Most of all, you want to have an audience with one of sports’ most endearing icons, Joe Paterno, Happy Valley’s homespun saint, and ask Joe Pa, repeatedly, “While you were regaling everyone with sappy tales about meeting your wife 50 years ago over ice cream at the local creamery in State College, Pa., did you have any idea what your longtime defensive coordinator was doing in the company of young boys?”

If the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office is to be taken at its word — if the sad, sickening details of alleged sexual abuse of young boys by Jerry Sandusky are true — a once-immaculate program thought of as beyond reproach is now close to beyond redemption.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-paterno-sounded-alarm-sordid-tale-true-time-sack-paterno-article-1.972869?pgno=1

Grand Jury report
http://www.ydr.com/ci_19272682?source=most_viewed

Victim 8

At this point, it seems, no one knows who this boy is. But what happened to him took an emotional toll on at least one adult.

Jim Calhoun was a janitor at the Lasch Building in State College in the fall of 2000. He reportedly saw Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in the showers on a fall evening in 2000.

Calhoun now has dementia and lives in a nursing home. While he is unable to testify, the grand jury did hear from people who spoke with Calhoun immediately after the alleged incident.

They described how distraught Calhoun was when he told them what he had seen. He shook and cried as he described the assault in graphic detail, and his coworkers worried that he might have a heart attack.

Calhoun told them he had "fought in the (Korean) war ... seen people with their guts blowed out, arms dismembered ... I just witnessed something in there I'll never forget."

Calhoun's supervisor told him how to report the incident, though no report was ever made.

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1. This...

"there was no effective change in Sandusky's status with the school, and no limits to his access of the campus". Says it all.

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2. I am stunned by this

2002 was 9 years ago.

How many kids did he get since then?

If my son came home and said he saw one of his coaches having sex with a 10 year old, my first call would be to the police.

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3. According to the Harrisburg Patriot-News, the unnamed GA was CURRENT coach Mike McQueary

He's the WR coach and the recruiting coordinator. The story only says "Several sources have identified that witness as McQueary," so I'm not sure how reliable that is. To me, the age doesn't seem quite right--the report apparently mentions a 28-year-old GA; I don't know when McQueary was born, but he started his career at Penn State in 1994, so he would have had to have been 20 rather than 18 at the time in order for the age to work out.

But if it was McQuarry, it boggles my mind that someone could stay on the staff having seen that happen and then knowing the people in charge of the program failed to follow up with the police. And if it was McQuarry who told Paterno, that means that Paterno heard from someone he had known and (presumably) trusted and respected for a long time (McQuarry was on the team for four years, a starter for a year, and had been a GA for two years by then) about this and still did nothing.

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4. wow..

Just read the piece...

Amazing .... and yet they still gave him an office and a key to the locker rooms.

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5. and according to the presentment, he apparently admitted, with police present, to the mother

in the 1998 investigation that he had showered with her son.

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/11/6/2541500/jerry-sandusky-allegations-and-obligations

The Grand Jury also noted that detectives from University Police and the State College Police Department eavesdropped on two conversations between Sandusky and Victim #6's mother, in which Sandusky admitted to showering with Victim #6 and other boys. When asked if he touched Victim #6's private parts, Sandusky allegedly said, "I don't know...maybe" and stated to Victim #6's mother, "I understand, I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."

I wonder why charges weren't filed.

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7. because

He only suds up the kid I guess.

Huge scandal all around.

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9. Something just seems really fishy about this. How could this have been swept away

for 15 years? If this shit really happened, it is really fucked up.

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6. He should have been gone yesterday

These kids were poor, so my suspicion is they thought it could be swept under the rug. Poor kids are treated differently.

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8. This isn't about Sports. This must go to General Discussion.

This is appalling.

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10. Paterno has released a statement

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/37765/joe-paterno-statement-on-sandusky-case

"If true, the nature and amount of charges made are very shocking to me and all Penn Staters. While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred.

"Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential. The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.

"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators.

"I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold. In the meantime I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."

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11. Sorry Joe

If someone came to me and told me that he witnessed a grown man molesting a 10 year old boy....I'd call the cops.