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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:49 AM
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Biggest NFL Draft Blunder Ever?
Ever since the Houston Texans drafted Mario Williams over Reggie Bush just about everyone has wondered if that would turn out to be the worst draft decision ever. Now things have taken another turn for the worst for the Texans. The new Texans head coach, Gary Kubiak, has now stated that the starting running back for the Texans, Dominick Davis, may not make the team. Davis is in danger of being cut from the team since he has a knee injury that has prevented him to practicing with the team throughout the whole preseason. This knee injury is in addition to the knee injury that caused Davis to get surgury during the offseason. The Texans do have at least two other players who could start at running back, but neither seems to be as good as Reggie Bush. In addition, it appears the general manager of the Texans has said that along with looking for to find a linebacker on the waviers list they will also look for a running back.

Does anybody think Charlie Caserly passed on Bush to hurt the Texans? Was not picking Reggie Bush an honest mistake or was it revenge for Caserly? I just do not see how they could have passed on Bush with all that was going on with the team. Here is a link to the story in the Houston Chronicle.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4147469.html
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:40 AM
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1. Could have been revenge, but I doubt it
Look at it this way. At the time, everyone thought Davis would be back by training camp (which he was) and be the number 1, even if they drafted Bush. Meanwhile Houston has a million holes to fill, but arguably at the time, RB wasn't one of them.

I'm not the kind of guy who would have passed on Bush. I would have brought him in and have them split time, then trade Davis when his value rose back up.

Davis wasn't a bad back. He had alot of respect and I think they just thought that Davis could be their number 1 guy for the next 5 or more years...Looks like they might have made a big mistake, but I don't know if it was necessarily purposefull.
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:19 AM
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33. I can understand
not being sold on Bush and all; Rentalgate, signability already having an RB. But what strikes me as particularly stupid is they didn't so much as get a midround pick to drop a spot to let New Orleans get him. According to the draft value charts it was worth a second to drop from 1 to 2. I'm sure the Jets or titans would be more than willing to overpay a bit to leapfrog into the number one spot, a threat that could have been used to coerce NO into paying the protection.

I have to wonder how much the man who ruined my childhood had to do with this. Dan Reeves made some legendary draft blunders in his time.

Speaking of Reeves and draft blunders, Tommy Maddox. Fueding with Elway who wants a receiver or lineman and Reeves passes up Carl Pickens and John Fina to take another QB. Carrer suicide.

Ted Gregory. Reeves didn't even watch the guy and he doesn't make the team out of camp.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:50 AM
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2. I thought you meant the Lions taking Charles Rogers.....
At least Mario Williams still has a CHANCE of playing well. Rogers has been an absolute disgrace.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:09 PM
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3. Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf...
...Vince Young (give it a few years).

Mario Williams will probably be a borderline Pro Bowler for seven or eight years or so. Even if that's not a #1 overall pick, it's not the worst blunder ever or anything.

A much more likely theory is that the NFL pressured the Texans to take Williams so that the troubled Saints could have Bush, boosting the prospects of that franchise significantly.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:13 PM
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4. Why Him
I am not the biggest Vince Young fan. I think he should have stayed in college for his last year. However, could you give me your reason(s) for saying he will be a bad pick. I do not think he will be as great in the NFL as he was in college, but how will he be a bad decision. I am just wondering.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:44 AM
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5. Outside of your view on Young, which we have know way of knowing....
...right now, the first three you named are some of many which are much worse pics than Houstons' this year.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:11 AM
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6. I'm glad to see Tim Couch so high on a list
A top pick, even if he bombs, should have exceptional physical ability and an opportunity to be great. Tim Couch never threatened that. He had a ridiculous crankup delivery and a weak arm. I was on a sports talk show at that time and said for months I wouldn't take Couch in the 4th round. I was astonished he made it through the offseason without being exposed as a mediocrity. Actually, he did bomb in the Browns' first individual workout, but they were so braindead they gave him a second chance and somehow rationalized an improved effort there was worthy of the top pick. Butch Davis threw away his NFL head coaching career by believing in Couch for too long.

But hell, Couch became a multimillionaire and married a Playmate of the Year.

I like antiwarwarrior's picks all around. IMO Vince Young will be a flop, with that delivery and playing style.

People tend to overlook he threw one of the most asinine passes in postseason history and got away with it. Texas was down 11 and he lofted a desperate forced pass to the far right sideline under pressure with about 5 minutes remaining in the Rose Bowl. That play was much more relevant to the type of situation he'll face in the NFL than the spread option or waltzing past outmatched defenders. The USC backup defensive back batted down the ball, instead of an easy interception that would have ended the game and significantly altered Young's reputation.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:48 PM
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13. let's remember, shall we?
the last guy who was going to revolutionize the QB position...not bad, but what has Mr. Vick accomplished?

successful QBs try NOT to get hit, not the other way around.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:43 PM
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16. That's who I think of when I watch Vince Young.
He's Michael Vick without the arm strength that makes Vick semi-viable as a passer.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:36 AM
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7. Since I go way back, let me give you this one
The 49ers traded up to get the first overall pick in exchange for several picks in order to draft Heisman Trophy winner Steve Spurrier. The 49ers already had a top-ranked quarterback in John Brodie. Brodie played until 1973; Spurrier retired from pro football in 1976.

Spurrier never set the hills on fire in the NFL.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:33 AM
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17. That was incredibly helpful to the Dolphins
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 05:33 AM by Awsi Dooger
They preferred Griese but there would have been local pressure to take the home state Heisman Trophy winner from Gainesville. A year earlier Miami took QB Rick Norton from Kentucky high in the first round who already looked like a flop, so they couldn't afford another QB gaffe. Supposedly the entire front office briethed a big sigh of relief when the 49ers made that move.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:25 PM
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8. Mike fucking Mamula
Instead of taking Warren Sapp. Horrible.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 01:15 AM
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21. a lot of teams made the mistake of passing on sapp
all because of the weed issue, and imagine all those teams regretted it too.

Ki-Jana Carter, from the same draft, is one of the great busts of all time ...
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:02 PM
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24. Mike Effin' Mamula!
The king of not quite getting to the quarterback...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:41 PM
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9. Russell Erxleben
kicker taken in the first round by, ironically, the same Saints who benefited from the Texans' collective brain fart.

Not only a washout in the NFL, but later served time in the federal pen as well!

Honorable (?) mention: The (pre-Belichick) Pats' Ken Sims. Washout, yes, but no prison time, so Erxleben wins. :-)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:35 PM
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10. Rickey Williams - Saints - Mike Ditka
Got to make the top five!
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:17 AM
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11. Brian Bosworth: Biggest SUPPLEMENTAL Draft Blunder Ever.
Not that I'm still bitter or anything.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:09 PM
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12. What a phony he was!
And everyone bought his act. :puke:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:36 PM
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28. Well at least he could act...the Giants used a supp pick on Dave Brown
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 08:22 PM
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14. Gotta be "the doctor", Tony Mandrich.......
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 08:25 PM by a kennedy
Every #1 list show on ESPN or whatever channel always says it's Tony Mandrich from Michigan....and of course, the Packers just had to take him, not Barry Sanders, but the drugged up pumped up pill poppin' Tony Mandrich. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: (edit to correct spelling)
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:18 PM
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15. Blankety blankin' blank!
Yeah, that "thyroid disease" Mandarich had held him back. But, the Packers had some wretched teams back then. I mean, David Whitehurst? I'm afraid this may be another loooonnnnnnggggggggg year and I'm also afraid that Favre may get killed out there with that offensive line they have. That being saiD, GO PACK!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:27 AM
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23. Mandrich went to Mich.State and the odd thing about that story is...
I saw this about a year ago... the odd part about that story is that it was pretty much completely the creation of Sports Illustrated. They put Mandrich on the cover and hyped him to god like status. GB just sort of did what was expected of them and took him. He would have been a good long term workable lineman but once they saw how over rated he was everyone soured on him and he faded out of the league.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:24 PM
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25. Mandrich is from Michigan STATE
NOT Michigan. One of the long list of ex-MSU players with rap sheets.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 06:08 PM
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38. That year's top five picks:
1. Troy Aikman
2. Tony Mandarich
3. Barry Sanders
4. Derrick Thomas
5. Deion Sanders.

OOOOOPS!
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:48 AM
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18. Redskins Fan Here, I Offer The Name Heath Schuler
For your consideration. A complete and total bust. Later the Skins drafted Desmond Howard, who was a bust, then had a great season with the Packers, winning the Superbowl MVP, went to the Raiders, and busted again.
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NoGOP Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:25 AM
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35. Amen
on Heath Shuler.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:29 PM
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37. Just hearing the name hurts my ears.
And I'm by no means a 'Skins fan.

My deepest sympathies.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:05 AM
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19. Packers taking Tony Mandarich instead of Barry Sanders
I think that pick set the standard for blown draft picks.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:33 PM
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26. Can you imagine Favre and Barry in the same backfield for 10 years?
They would have re-written all of the scoring records.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:47 PM
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20. Dave Brown
worst QB I've ever seen and I saw him for far too long.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:41 PM
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29. Add to that one eyed Cedric Jones
With Wheatley and Dayne splitting the honorable mentions...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 03:02 PM
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34. more than Ron Dayne?
I mean, Brown was a supplemental pick.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:01 PM
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22. Jeff George
never so much wasted talent
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:05 PM
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27. Ryan Leaf. eom
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:24 PM
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36. By a wide margin.
Next is Brian *gack* Bosworth.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 05:54 PM
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30. Bush still
has to play a real game.......
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:33 PM
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31. Charlie Casserly has had better days
with the Redskins
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:08 PM
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32. The Reds not picking up any pitchers...OOOPS
wrong thread







:)
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 06:12 PM
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39. Atlanta Falcons
drafted Aundray Bruce out of Auburn as the overall #1 pick.

That stunk pretty much.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:24 PM
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40. All nine teams that didn't take Leinart
Period
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:48 AM
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41. well, the worst draft pick ever wasn't in the NFL
I do believe this honor belongs to the Portland Trailblazers. Sam Bowie. Enough said.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:17 AM
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42. I have that beat. The CFL drafted a dead guy....twice.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:19 AM
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43. a dead guy?
at least you don't have to pay him millions while the next guy becomes an icon!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:41 PM
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44. DoH!
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