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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:32 PM
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So, Jets fans...how you liking the Brett Favre Show now?
You know, since half the team hates him and he's pulling his "Gee, I don't know if I have the desire or ability to come back" song and dance for the fifth straight year?

Oh, and:

Aaron Rodgers: 63.6% completions, 4,038 yards, 28 TD, 13 INT, 93.8 rating
Brett Favre: 65.7% completions, 3,472 yards, 22 TD, 22 INT, 81.0 rating

I think the Packers will be just fine.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:35 PM
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1. I didn't even realize that Rodgers had that many TDs.
They made the right move anyways, even if Rodgers hadn't been that good. I have nothing really against Favre, he's been fun to watch over the years and all, but it was pretty clear at the end of last year that his arm was out of gas, and it happened even earlier this year. The guy is hanging on too long and tarnishing his career.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:50 PM
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2. I agree with you
My bitterness is not quite as much at far as with the cult that insists he's the Football Jesus and could do no wrong. He ruled the mid-1990s and belongs in the Hall of Fame, but last year's 13-3 was a fluke.

It doesn't help when you've been an IU fan and have to deal with the same thing regarding Bobby Primadonna Knight.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 01:19 PM
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3. Favre has won only 3 of his last 10 playoff games
In my mind, his main accomplishment has been his amazing durability....and while he's a sure Hall of Famer, he's as much a media creation as anything else.

Rodgers has a bright future, I only wish the 49ers had drafted him instead of Alex Smith.

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:40 PM
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4. Yeah, I was mystified that he dropped so far in the draft
Happy, though, since the Packers had a late round pick that year.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:49 PM
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5. Same here.
Though, there's no telling how successful he would have been in S.F. Nolan would have likely rushed him into service with that weak receiving corp and bad pass protection.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:49 PM
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12. in defense of the 49'ers
favre would have bombed in san fran, and not in good way. coming out of college, he was still an immature party boy. part of the reason he did so well in green bay is the fact it's NOT a big party environment like say chicago or new york. it's a small town and over the years it's had a "calming" effect on some of the biggest nutcases in the nfl that have come to play there. the other reason was probably mike holmgren and favre's wife....

anyhoo, if favre would have ended up in some big media market team right out of the gate, he might have flamed out faster.

just my two cents.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 05:12 PM
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6. You hate to see sports greats hang on too long.
Jim Brown had it right.

If Favre had retired at the end of last year, he would have been a god in Green Bay. His image is now tarnished greatly, though it's too soon to tell how much of a PR hit he took. He didn't exactly leave on good terms.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 09:28 PM
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8. Still can throw, but can't last a full season...partly physical and partly
once you get past a certain age, it's the concentration that's gone...just can't keep up that intense single-mindedness.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 05:45 PM
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7. How 'bout the packer fans that are still upset he's gone?
When will they get over it? They are supposed to be the most football savvy fans in the history of the gridiron. But the again the read and write to the GB PressGazette, maybe thats the problem

84 interceptions over the last 4 years, leads all QB's
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 06:12 AM
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9. He isn't the reason they failed
The teams defense is what killed them. How many times were they in position to win, to have the defense give it up at the end.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 11:18 AM
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10. Maybe that's because they were tired...
It takes a lot out of one to cover for all those INT's earlier in the game. It was a team effort, the defense came up short, but so did Favre. It's just an absolute joke that he's in the pro bowl. He was arguably the 3rd best QB in the AFC EAST.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:07 PM
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11. I was talking about the Packers, not the Jets
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 07:03 PM
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13. Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
Favre certainly contributed largely to the Jets failures this year. Much less so for the Pack last year.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:42 PM
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14. They should do like they do in baseball...
When a runner gets on base it is either a good hit or an error by a player.

How many times has an interception been the result of the receiver muffing the catch or for other reasons?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:00 AM
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15. There's been a few of those from Favre
However, based on the many Packer games I've watched, most of his interceptions are the result of bad decision making.

I wouldn't argue, however, that stats need to be updated to take drops/miffs into account.
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