Cutler: “I didn’t want to get traded”

[El Supremo]

OH GIVE ME A BIG FAT MOTHERFUCKING BREAK!

http://www.indenvertimes.com/2009/04/02/cutler-i-didnt-want-to-get-traded/

[Upton]

1. Denver is saying they want 2 first round picks

for Cutler. That's just way too much for a guy who's a question mark between the ears.

[RT Atlanta]

2. not sure about the question mark

unlike other colleges, Vandy's academic curriculum is pretty rigorous even for its athletes.

[El Supremo]

3. Do they offer Common Sense 101?

Or How Not Make Important Communications By Texting Only ?

[Upton]

4. I'm not saying he's dumb

I'm saying something's going on with his character...he's been acting like an immature little brat throughout this entire ordeal.

Perhaps some of this can be laid at the foot of his father Jack, who is somewhat overbearing. Jack apparently has had a habit of standing on the sidelines during Bronco practices.

Cutler's parents live about 2 miles away from their son in Denver and put their house up for sale at about the same time Jay did. I think it's about time Jay got away from his parents and grew up.

[cboy4]

5. I side with Cutler ... could Broncos fans be a bigger group

of fucking babies? :cry:

Huh El Supremo? Is that even possible?

Not to mention, they're cheaters.





Published: November 15, 1985

<snip>

Who threw the snowball that interfered with a 49er field goal attempt by Ray Wersching and may have cost San Francisco a victory over the Broncos in Denver Monday night?

on November 11, 1985, the Broncos won a Monday Night Football home game when a fan threw a snowball onto the field during San Francisco 49ers kicker Ray Wersching field goal attempt. 49er holder Matt Cavanaugh picked up the ball and threw it incomplete, losing three decisive points in a 17-16 loss.

''Me and my buddy both threw snowballs at the same time,'' he said, recalling that his friend's had hit an upright while his own bounced near the place-kick holder, Matt Cavanaugh, causing him to bobble the snap and abort the attempted field goal, which represented the margin in the Bronco's 17-16 victory. The paper, which said it was convinced the young man was the real snowball thrower, said he had expressed his apologies to the 49ers and their fans but refused the $500.

Ray Wersching (14) missed a field goal for the 49ers when someone
tossed a snowball at him in Denver. (AP)

[Upton]

6. You know what else?

The 49ers finished 10-6 that year losing the division by 1 game. So, because of the snowball they were forced to go on the road and play a wildcard game, which they lost.

Who knows?.. that snowball might have very well have cost the Niners another Super Bowl. So, when you combine the '85 snowball game with the cheating in the '83 Championship game, the 49ers rightfully could have and probably would have had 7 SB victories by now.

Seems like cheating was the only way to stop the 49er juggernaut during the eighties.

[cboy4]

7. Another excellent point Upton .. and everyone knows it

was the snowball that gave Denver the cheat-induced "win" considering Wersching was absolutely and consistently money with his PAT's.

[madinmaryland]

10. This is what I know about you two...

[TZ]

8. OMG yet another sour grapes post...

You really think every game the Niners lost is because the other team "cheated"! :rofl:
Trumad's right you ARE the gift that keeps on giving...:rofl:

[Upton]

11. Facts are facts

if the snowball had not have been thrown, instead of finishing second by 1 game the 49ers would have won the division, as they owned the tiebreaker.... They split with the division winning Rams during the regular season but had a better record within the division. In other words, the Niners were indeed cheated out of the NFC West crown and possibly another Super Bowl victory.

I don't see how you can deny that, but then again you cling to the illusion that the Redskins earned the '83 NFC Championship too..

[trotsky]

14. Give me a break, Sockpuppeton!

There must have been cheating in the other five games the Whiners lost that year too, huh? Pittsburgh and the Giants have won Super Bowls in the last few years starting as the #6 seed in their conference. If the '83 Whiners were capable of winning a championship, a little thing like a road playoff game shouldn't have stopped them.

[cboy4]

16. blah blah blah .. the 49ers just plain humiliated their

last two opponents in the Super Bowl.

My voice is still horse from laughing at the scores.

My favorite:

S.F. 55, DEN 10

:rofl:

And then they humiliated San Diego a fears later.

Good times. HA

[trotsky]

19. As did just about every NFC representative in the 80s.

Severe conference imbalance was the highlight of that decade, extending into the early 90s. The NFC playoffs, and particularly the NFC Championship game, were the "real" deciding games. Your Whiners couldn't handle the tough opponents in 1983. So sorry.

[Upton]

20. In that '83 Championship game

Joe Montana threw 3 consecutive TD passes in the 4th quarter, bringing the 49ers back from a 21 point deficit. To say the Redskins were stunned and on their heels would be an understatement, only the subsequent interference by the officials prevented what would have been an historic comeback victory by the Niners.

If he I were a Redskin fan I would be embarrassed to claim the '83 NFC Championship...which is why you see their supporters doing their best to change the subject or avoid the topic altogether.

[trotsky]

23. Too bad it wasn't enough to win the game.

Poor farty-whiners.

[cboy4]

27. It brings me great joy to hear people use disparaging

remarks to describe the 49ers ... because it drives home just how much some people hated them when they dominated the National Football League.

And I mean dominated.

That it turn brought me unlimited joy seeing all of the frowns.

LOL

[madinmaryland]

33. It brings me great joy to hear people use disparaging

remarks to describe the Dallas Cowboys ... because it drives home just how much some people hated them when they have dominated the National Football League.

And I mean dominated.

That it turn brought me unlimited joy seeing all of the frowns.

:rofl:

Nice line describing yourself, cboy!!!

[BulletproofLandshark]

24. Jesus effin Christ

I would've thought that a quarter century would have been enough time to get over your team losing a ballgame. But considering the way you jokers get your panties in a wad over any perceived slight against a certain retired slugger, I'm not really surprised.

[cboy4]

28. Considering the 49ers would have gone on to win their

sixth Super Bowl title, against no defeats, some of us remain bitter that Washington cheated.

I prefer sports be played fairly.

[TZ]

29. What an imagination

And to hear you claim Joe Gibbs of all people cheated makes you sound even more idiotic....:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

32. Wow. The forty-whiner fans getting beaten up for being a crybabies, by

a Deadskin fan!!

The irony!

:rofl:

[Upton]

34. I wouldn't say

Gibbs cheated, he probably was completely unaware of the situation...though I'm sure he knows deep inside he didn't deserve to win that game.

The NFL figured it was to their benefit to have the Redskins in the SB that year, so they acted accordingly. It wouldn't be the first time a league, through their officials, has taken actions to ensure a "preferred" team triumphed over another in a conference championship....take for example the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals between LA and Sacramento.

[BulletproofLandshark]

30. You're bitter because they ONLY got five rings?

What a maroon. I mean, that's still the SECOND best ever, right?

In fact the Redskins missed four(!) field goals in the 1st half of that game, and also had a TD called back. So the Whiners should have just considered themselves lucky they didn't get buried that day.

[Upton]

31. The Niners should have 6 rings

...there's no excuse for what happened in the final minutes of that game, the officials literally handed the game to the Redskins. It's a stain upon NFL history and will never be forgotten by true 49er fans, we know we didn't lose that day...it was stolen from us.

And BTW, the 49er Super Bowl record is not "the SECOND best ever" it is SECOND TO NONE...the Niners are the only undefeated multiple SB winner, the top winning percentage in SB history.

[TZ]

35. " a stain upon NFL history"

BWAHAHAHA! You and Cboy really are the ultimate SPOILED BRAT FANS I doubt if anyone outside of you two even thinks twice about that game. I'm a Skins fan and I know I don't....BTW, I consider the Pittsburgh Steeler the greatest franchise in NFL history. They won in multiple eras with different coaches and players. Outside of the Montana Era the Forty-whiners only have ONE SB victory. Oh btw..The Skins won three different SB's with three different QB's a much more impressive feat if you ask me...

[Upton]

37. Lets see

The Redskins are 3-2 in Super Bowls, including the humiliating karmic justice defeat to the Raiders which was at that time the worst loss in SB history. Meanwhile the 49ers are 5-0 in Super Bowls, including number XXIV which remains the largest margin of victory in SB history, not to mention the most points scored.

I could go on, but I think that's enough...the numbers speak for themselves.

[TZ]

38. They lost to the undefeated Dolphins in 72.

No shame there. And they blew it agaisnt the Raiders..But outside of that, they won all their games AS UNDERDOGS. IIRC the 49's just did what they were supposed to do, and I believe the level of talent in those SB's was actually less than what the Skins faced...
Skins wins were proof of mastery of coaching. 49ers could have won those games with Barney Fife on the sidelines.

[BulletproofLandshark]

39. Well I know what we'd probably be hearing if it were Raiders vs 49ers:

"But, but, Howie Long and Marcus Allen cheated!!! If it weren't for them, and the Giants pounding us into dust in the '86 playoffs, and Minnesota schooling us in our own building in '87, we would've won every title from 81-89, dammit! Now fetch me my pacifier!"

[BulletproofLandshark]

36. Yes, such a great travesty that no one but you and your clone remembers it.

They only won 5 and the Steelers won 6. No one except pissy-pants Whiners fans give a flying fuck about the percentages. It all about how many Lombardi's they carried home. Besides, you have no way of knowing that the 49ers would've beaten L.A.

[fishwax]

43. tied for second, actually

:evilgrin:

[madinmaryland]

44. Yeap!! TIED for second!

:evilgrin:

[Upton]

46. Nope

49ers..5-0

Cowboys..5-3

That's not a tie unless you count victories only and ignore losses.

[Forkboy]

47. So then one team has been there 8 times, and yours just 5?

People don't count losses, they count rings.

Back to your crayon drawing board.

[Upton]

48. Victories count

but so do losses. By your method, a team with a record of 5-100 would be equal to a club sporting a 5-0 mark just because they had more opportunities...sorry, that doesn't work for me nor does it work winning percentage wise.

[madinmaryland]

51. Eight NFC Championships vs. five NFC Championships.

I'll take the team with EIGHT.

[Upton]

53. I see you've changed your mind about becoming

a Broncos fan..:rofl:

Or am I being premature and you're still mulling it over?

[madinmaryland]

54. What the fuck are you talking about? I see you tried a quick subject change..

Interestingly, you won't hear me whining about the three losses in the SB. You know if I want to become a REAL SPORTS WHINER, I only have to follow your example!

[Upton]

57. Here's an interesting stat

the Cowboys have 3 SB losses, one away from the record of 4 held by the Vikings, Bills, and your second favorite team the Broncos. So, the teams that you root for have a combined 7 SB losses between them, making you a.. REAL SPORTS LOSER!!!:rofl: :rofl:

On Edit: To avoid any confusion, let me add that even without the Bronco losses you still qualify, under the REAL sports rules, as a REAL sports loser. Congrats

[madinmaryland]

58. That's a really good job of asshattery, upton. Let me try and come up with something equally

moronic..



Sorry, but I'm not in the same league as you when it comes to asshattery!

[Forkboy]

59. More Repub-like thinking from our resident moran.

[madinmaryland]

60. Actually your lack of logic is really quite amusing!

Think about what you posted. Dallas kicked the Bill's asses twice in the SB, the Bronco's asses once, and then had THE HAIL MARY play again the Purple Peter Eaters in 1975.

And you my friend take second place behind cboy4 as the REAL SPORTS LOSER!

[Upton]

61. self delete

[madinmaryland]

64. Thanks for deleting cboy. He has been a bit annoying recently with all of his

homoerotic comments.

[Upton]

62. Interesting thing about that one SB

the one in which the Cowboys defeated the Bills 52-17. Remember Leon Lett was stripped of the ball at the goal line when returning a fumble recovery....if he had scored that TD, it would be the Cowboys not the 49ers that holds the record for most points scored in a SB.

The 49ers had the last laugh...as their record of 55 points still stands and is likely to be safe for quite awhile.

[madinmaryland]

63. That is one of the most stupid things I have heard out of you, but then

I should expect that from you.

I don't know about you, but 59-17, 52-17 or 18-17 still equates to a victory.

[Upton]

65. You don't appreciate the irony do you?

It may equate to a victory but because of Letts's fumble, it doesn't equate to a breaking of a 49er held record....

To make you feel better, I'll remind you that the Cowboys do hold the record for most points scored by a LOSING team. Which is much more appropriate anyway.

[madinmaryland]

66. At least you don't hear me WHINING about it, 30 years later.

I am able to move on, unlike you and upton.

[Upton]

67. You whined about it

just a few minutes ago... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&topic_id=90934&mesg_id=91111

Denying a play's significance is equivalent to major league whining...so says the rules of the REAL sports fan.

[madinmaryland]

68. You link to a post showing you to be a mental midget??

:wtf:

What kind of shit are you smoking as you maketh the rules of REAL SPORTS FANS??

:smoke:

[Forkboy]

69. Not only does that link not show any whining, you've already been shown to be a hypocrite.

Shall I repost your two posts again for you, Upton? The one where you whine about refs, and the one where you bitch at someone for whining about refs?

Seriously, dude, you like a huge idiot right now. Give it up.

[Upton]

70. Apples and oranges

chiding a poster for complaining when his team, a #1 seed, plays a #16 seed in a game that shouldn't have even been close.. cannot be compared to the very real concerns that have been raised not only by me, but by true 49er fans across the spectrum, about the '83 NFC Championship game.

Now you don't have to like it, but you probably think Brett Hull wasn't in the crease either.

[Forkboy]

71. No, it's hypocrisy. This isn't even a good dodge.

Try again, and put some thought into it, if you're able.

[Forkboy]

56. It's all about the rings.

[fishwax]

49. The comment was about rings, and five ties for second

[madinmaryland]

50. Lets see. Both teams have five SB Victories. Now, the other three means

that Dallas has won eight NFC Championships while the Forty-whiners have won only five.

[Upton]

52. If you want to count only NFC Championships

you are correct..the Cowboys have a better record.

However, that's little consolation..as the Niners have a superior SB winning percentage with an equal number of victories.

[cboy4]

15. Of course the Broncos cheated......fine, maybe it was

indirectly cheating .. but this I know:

The fans in Green Bay come to Lambeau Field to help clear away the snow, knowing they'll help prevent disgraceful incidents. Apparently Packer fans like to win fair and square. :shrug:

[madinmaryland]

9. Sounds like your the crybaby. Still whining about something that

happened 25 years ago.

LOSER!

[Upton]

12. It doesn't matter

if it happened 25 years ago or 5 minutes ago..REAL sports fans never forget when their team has been cheated or conspired against.

[madinmaryland]

40. Dude. REAL SPORTS FANS don't whine and cry about the ref's or the league

conspiring against them. It's part of sports. Grow up and lose the passifier.

[Forkboy]

41. REAL idiots don't either, apparently.

You sound like a cheap suit version of a Repub with this "real" talk. Do you also have an idea of who the REAL Americans are, like Rushbo and Bush did? Or is sports the only area where you're a fucking jackass?

[madinmaryland]

55. That would be REAL SPORTS WHINERS never stop whining about shit that happened

25 years ago.

[El Supremo]

13. Who you calling babies????

Oh, and one especially for cboy:

[cboy4]

17. There's no telling how many times you've beat off to

that.

But don't worry .. your secret is safe with me, you pervert`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````.

[El Supremo]

18. You latte sipping San Fransissyan!

[madinmaryland]

22. Why the fuck are you running around naked in a Bronco's helmet.

That was something I didn't need to see.

:puke:

[fishwax]

26. lol -- that's the one where Cavanaugh flubbed the snap and blamed a snowball that

landed a few yards away :rofl:

The ref at the game said that Cavanaugh didn't even flinch from the snowball, or else he might have replayed the down.

[Forkboy]

21. What a sad sack. It's the pros fuckface. Trades happen, and they might include you.

Someone get this chowderhead a sippy cup.

[madinmaryland]

25. Unfortunately for Cutler, cboy has the sippy cup.

[Forkboy]

42. After reading this thread Upton needs a sippy cup and a nappy change.

The hypocritical little baby is whining in another thread about people who complain about refs calls and that's all he's done in this thread. The disconnect there would be jawdropping if we weren't talking about one of the biggest nimrods on DU. As it is, it's expected.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&topic_id=90887&mesg_id=90919

[madinmaryland]

45. Well, you gotta admit, it's hard to have two personna's on one message board.

Occasionally wires are going to get crossed, resulting in the ensuing hilarity!!

[Forkboy]

72. Upton's idea of "apples and oranges", or, "How To Became A Hypocrite In Two Easy Steps".

"You lost - get used to it and stop whining. Man, you were complaining and blaming it on the refs..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&topic_id=90887&mesg_id=90919

"only the subsequent interference by the officials prevented what would have been an historic comeback victory by the Niners."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x90934#90965

I got all night, Upton. Want to keep going round?

[El Supremo]

73. **LOCKING**

For gross hijacking of a thread.

[cboy4]

74. This thread is a disgrace.

Just like your finish in the DU NCAA pool.