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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:32 AM
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Obama May End Military's Ban on Gays (xpost from Veterans)
Obama May End Military's Ban on Gays
January 07, 2009
Agence France-Presse

Sixteen years after Bill Clinton tried to end restrictions on gays in the military, the U.S. armed forces under Barack Obama may be forced to give homosexuals the same welcome as non-gays.

Under president Clinton, the policy that once saw homosexuals discharged from US military service evolved to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," allowing gays to remain in the military so long as they did not reveal their sexual orientation.

Obama has pledged to overhaul current law.

"The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited," reads an entry on the president-elect's transition website.

Shortly after taking the oath of office in 1993, Clinton originally moved for an outright ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation in the military.


Rest of article at: http://www.military.com/news/article/obama-may-end-militarys-ban-on-gays.html?col=1186032310810&wh=wh
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:24 AM
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1. ok which is it? putting it off til 2010
or moving ahead?

or is this just propaganda hot air?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:28 AM
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2. I'm going with the "just propaganda hot air"
Obama has whispered a lot of sweet nothings into the ear of the LGBT community. Looking at his inauguration plans and current appointments, it is clear that those sweet words really were nothing.

I will start to believe Obama on gay issues when I see him actually DOING something favorable on gay issues. Not before; my reserve of trust has run dry and there is no more available.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:42 AM
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3. when you line that up with what has happened at the dnc --
removing references about lgbtiq people and replacing it with 'families' and kaine at the wheel -- i agree with you.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:02 PM
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5. Bingo
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:36 PM
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6. I'll believe it
when I see it. I am named after the apostle Thomas
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 11:55 AM
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4. 'Obama has pledged to overhaul current law.'
Overhaul or overturn?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:29 PM
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8. The article uses "overhaul"
That doesn't sound like "overturn" to me. It would be nice to see an exact quote, though.
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:23 PM
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7. Won't Happen.......
This type of bullshit news stories are directed at the:


"Please Sir, May We Have Our Rights Now Crowd"......


... and the "Please Sir, Hit Me Like You Mean It Next Time" self loathers.....


Nothing will happen except (many of all stripes) will continue to wipe the Queer communities face in shit over all Queer issues of the day (this one, and many more)...... and they'll continue to guffaw, and chortle while doing it....


Queers need to consider a "me first" plan of action.... and stop worrying about "Saving The Yeti In The Himalayas", or the "Titmouse Of Tunisia".....


Because if we don't save ourselves..... nobody will.....


It's way past our turn








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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:31 PM
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10. As I have been saying
No support or votes for POLITICIANS WHO ARE NOT UPFRONT PRO EQUALITY. No innuendos , half baked "friendly but can't afford to stand up" types for me
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:46 PM
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11. I Fully Agree (nt)
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:31 PM
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9. Bullcrap. He's not going to lift a finger for us.
n/t
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