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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 09:49 AM Original message |
An Epidemic of Fear: How Panicked Parents Skipping Shots Endangers Us All |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is easy to con the ignorant. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I suppose there are those who thought that Louis Pasteur himself was |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. That is one way of putting it. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Hate to tell you this, but there are people as anti-Pasteur as creationists are anti-Darwin |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not so sure. Vaccines can fuck up children. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "don't immunize while your child is sick" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. But in the real world -- as opposed to the controlled world of research studies -- |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. And you have evidence of this? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes. I had a family practice doctor --when I was young and more |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That's a lovely anecdotal story. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I don't care whether YOU don't know if I'm making it up. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Okey dokey, at least we're clear. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Any physician worth their license ALREADY KNOWS NOT TO VACCINATE |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Its not uncommon for a mother to take their child in for a runny nose, and then |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. A doctor who immunizes an already ill (with infectious dz) child needs |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. You're a vet, right? What I've been seeing is that vets are much more |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Sadly, I have to tell you that the majority of veterinarians in my area |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. most vets i know give as many vacs as |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Whoa, that's never happened with my kid. I've made more than a few return trips |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. I should have read this post first, Kestrel. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
47. Nowhere near as much as the diseases do |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. but pregnant women refusing x-rays or thalydamide were called irrational too |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. You don't know what a logical fallacy is. Thalidomide is an excellent example. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You are correct. Using thalidomide is a perfect example of a logical fallacy. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Excellent examples, Zazen. Another example is the polio vaccine, which was |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Good for you! It's a whole lot better to read and research and |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. So you pretty much completely ignored the point of the article then, huh? |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Just because some people go off the deep end |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. "embrace any and all vaccines without any critical thinking" |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Really!!?? Do tell. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. For me and my children, none. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ahh, but you embrace any and all vaccines without question |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. There is no "Big Daddy." |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No that's not it |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. So your original comment was completely unfounded. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 04:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. How is that? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Well, I'll give you credit. You are very, very good at projection. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. Greedy vaccine manufacturers like Merck, who attempt to mandate |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. So, do you have anyting whatsoever... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Of course I do. Since reposting seems to be the order of the day, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So you agree with the article... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree with one point of the article, as I said, and I just gave you |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Perhaps you could state some of its arguments? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oh, and by the way... |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. That is exactly my concern. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-25-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. I think it's important for everybody |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 04:30 AM Response to Original message |
45. It doesn't matter. There isn't enough flu vaccine to go around, anyway. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-26-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It's not just about flu |
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