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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:16 AM
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Americans United calls on President Obama to make this list a priority.
Source: AU

As Barack Obama assumes the presidency, Americans United for Separation of Church and State has prepared a list of nine religious liberty issues that merit special attention from the White House. Called “9 in ’09,” this campaign seeks to repair the damage that occurred to the wall of separation between church and state during the Bush administration.

1. Restrict Faith-Based Funding: The Bush administration’s dangerous executive orders promoting the “faith-based” initiative should be overridden. Religious organizations should not be singled out for special government treatment and generous tax subsidies.

2. Ban Faith-Based Job Bias: An executive order should be issued barring religiously based job bias in all publicly funded programs. Not one dime in tax funds should go to “faith-based” organizations that discriminate in hiring.

3. Select Good Judges: Give America judges who support the Bill of Rights, including its church-state separation provision. Our country deserves federal judges who will respect, not eviscerate, the First Amendment.

Six more at the link: http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=our_efforts_ ...
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:26 AM
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1. AU member here
Thanx for posting that list. Evryone needs to work towards this. I've been doing all I can to get the word out about the Religious Wrong and how they're destroying America. I posted last year's First Freedom First simulcast (which was shown in theaters across America) on other forums. I'm sure soemone posted it here but if not I'm sure I can dig it up.

Stop the Religious Wrong!
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TellTheTruth82 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:13 AM
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2. Addressing number two and number three only (the link isn't working)
In fact, by saying that you can't fund "faith based" organizations is a form of discrimination itself. It's a slippery slope.

As far as number three, remember that there is no provision in the Constitution which states that church and state should be separated, only that Congress shall make no law abridging....I don't know of any federal judge who has violated this, though I could certainly have a missed a case (or two or three).

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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 03:59 AM
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3. try this link
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=our_efforts_2009_nine_in_09


It's unconstitutional to fund religious organizations that discriminate in hiring or who you those funds to proselytize.

Thomas Jefferson clarified the intent of the First Amendment in his letter to the Danbury Baptists..


"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature
should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a
wall of separation between Church & State. adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of
the rights of conscience..."
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TellTheTruth82 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:51 AM
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4. That link works
but the quote you have is not in the Constitution.....As far as the other points go, I have never heard of any problems in those areas with the exception of school vouchers. Frankly, this puts one on the slippery slope again, as it would create a law that discrimnates against religious groups.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 01:42 AM
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5. I didn't say it was in the Constitution
That's from Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists, telling them what the religious clause of the First Amendment was about. This is well known...
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TellTheTruth82 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:49 AM
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6. understand
but you said it was unconstitutional....my point is that the line that is often quoted is not in the constitution and many people believe it is
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HAARP Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:50 PM
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7. Read...
Chris Hedges wrote an article recently touching on the religious extremists here in the US of A.
Maybe on truthdig or nation.
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