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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:19 PM
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A 75,000-year-old human settlement may lurk beneath the Persian Gulf
Evidence is mounting that the first human civilization outside of Africa probably evolved in what is now the Persian Gulf. Recent discoveries suggest that we're about to find a fairly advanced civilization sunk beneath the waters of the Gulf.

Archaeologist Jeffrey Rose has published a paper in Current Anthropology where he argues that we'll find some of the earliest human civilizations on Earth in what was once a fertile basin fed by clear streams and lush with greenery.

http://io9.com/5710957/a-75000+year+old-human-settlement-may-lurk-beneath-the-persian-gulf?skyline=true&s=i
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:22 PM
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1. Cool!
I love this stuff. Wish I'd majored on Archeology.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:54 PM
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2. Doesn't look like dressed stone to me. Sorry.
I'm pretty big on finding old and early, but geologists are going to eat his ass.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 04:58 PM
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3. Eww... n/t
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:58 PM
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6. Definitely not dressed stone. 2 traverse vertical faults, another...
vertical fault intersecting at about a 60 degree angle, and 2 horizontal faults. All very clearly aligned.
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 04:41 PM
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10. To be fair...
The picture is unlabeled and Jeffrey Rose isn't quoted making any references to anything that sounds like it's what's in the picture. In all probability the author or the editor just augmented the article with a pic that appeared kind-sorta related ("get one of those file photos from Yonaguni..."). Rose is talking about paleolithic sites; I'm pretty sure if he thought he had cut stone walls we wouldn't think he had a paleolithic site.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:04 PM
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4. How the fuck does the article get "75,000-year-old" settlement?
The claim would be less hyperbolically presented as "at least eight thousand."
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:40 PM
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5. Like this:
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 08:41 PM by laconicsax
The Gulf Oasis would have been a shallow inland basin exposed from about 75,000 years ago until 8,000 years ago, forming the southern tip of the Fertile Crescent, according to historical sea-level records.

Someone could have lived there 75k years ago.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 03:13 AM
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7. I'm sure they did. Just not in stone palaces.
But the date for large urban settlements is getting pushed farther and farther back. The digs in Eastern Europe are turning up astonishing things.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:12 AM
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8. That's why I said "at least 8k." n/t
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 03:58 PM
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9. You were being reasonable. The author of the article was not. n/t
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:04 PM
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11. wow, talk about taking what the source was saying out of context
Jeffrey Rose wasn't saying anything like what the author of the article was implying. But I don't know any archaeologist that doesn't get grossly misquoted by the media (myself included).
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