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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:09 AM
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Has anyone else had the creepy feeling that things aren't

"right" and something is going to happen? I was watching people shop today and nothing feels like it did before the election.It is almost as though there is a difference in the air, and nothing is as it appears. It is as though everyone is only going through the motions of life while waiting for something. It is just a weird feeling. Almost as if the world is holding its breath.


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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:25 AM
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1. Honestly
I have the same feeling. I can't seem to shake it. Since I sometimes am more self-involved, I figured it was something with me or my family. But, the feeling feels "outside" of me. I know that doesn't make much sense. I feel something is about to really upset the US economy and something will cause feelings like the 9-11 tragedy did. It scares me. Perhaps it is just fear of the administration and their total control, perhaps because they have really pissed off the "powers that be," we are all about to get slapped down! :(
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:40 AM
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2. It is like the overall perception of the universe has changed.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 01:40 AM by saracat
The only thing I can compare it with was a hallucination I had as a child when my parents overdosed some medicine each thinking the other hadn't given it to me. Anyway, everyone looked like themselves only more so. They were sort of like living 8 by 10 glossies of movie stars. In this case it is the opposite effect. Everything has gone grey and seems hushed. I feel like we need to do something and yet I don't know what.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:52 AM
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3. I am non-plussed
I understand what you are saying and I feel like something needs to be done, but what do we do?! After the election, many people I know had their lives turned upside down. It was as if things just went really bad for two weeks! Since then, it seems like people make the motion, but 'soul' is lacking, almost like zombies.

Perhaps a "purge" is coming. I feel the balance of 'good and evil' has been misaligned and a shift is about to occur. I know it sounds like I am talking out of my ass, but I have such creepy feelings when I see certain people and news events. It is like nothing I have ever felt!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:55 AM
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4. Me too, but oddly enough, I feel good about Kerry.
I don't know why but I trust that man. He may do some good for us yet.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:05 AM
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5. Wanna hear something weird?
I have a strong feeling a young (?) woman is about to come on to the scene and send shock waves through the country! I feel she is already "out and about" but not too famous. I can only hope someone will stand up to this administration is such a way that it will crumble under its own ignorance, hate, and intolerance!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:15 AM
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6. Interesting. Glad you posted that I will watch.
I have an odd feeling about Kerry though. Maybe because when I met him for the first time, I felt an electricity that shot up from his hand and I remember thinking "This is the next President of the United States". Maybe I just can't shake that feeling. I never got it from any of the other candidates and I met them as well. I have never had a feeling like that before. I am now getting a feeling that his is doing something.I also am getting a feeling about RFK Jr. I think he his going to come out and say something important soon. BTW, This young woman, are you seeing her as leadership or as whistleblower?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:24 AM
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7. My crazy thoughts
I too think we have not seen the last of Kerry in relation to the "election." As for the woman, I don't know what her role will be. I just feel she will cause mouths to drop and she will be a shit-kicker! She will seem to be nice and a little wimpy, but she will erupt with a warrior's spirit! It will rattle the administration to its core and they will run around trying to control her and whatever she unleashes. I keep getting an odd "phoenix" feeling...as if she is being reborn from the ashes. Perhaps it will be a recent widow (of the Iraqi invasion or 9-11) or someone like that. It is unclear and I hope that I am right. She will also not stay in the "fray" long. So, maybe she is a whistle blower, but she will be very strong!
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:42 PM
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15. Sibel Edmonds
nt
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:58 AM
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10. I have the same unexplainable feeling ...
I just can't explain it . That's why I was so crushed with the way the election went .
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:55 AM
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11. Invasion of the body snatchers
Does any one remember this movie? That is what it feels like. All
these pod people around me, taken over by strange beings.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:24 AM
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8. I have a bit of that feeling
but am trying to keep it as submerged as possible. It seems like people are either in massive denial (about the election, and the trend that implies) or are talking about it in code, ie return to organized crime/ discussing the great depression/ comparing to Hitler regime. I've had a few freeper type people go off on me recently, just start screaming and there's no easy way to shut them off. Not sure what to make of the whole thing, except the obvious: the election was fraudulent, but we aint gettin' anywhere with disputing that fact. Whenever we make any headway, it turns out that major deadlines are missed, or we are too late in filing, or for some reason things get skewed in the other guy's favor. It seems to me that Shrubbie is super worried about his personal safety wherever he goes, and I just can't imagine why he would've wanted this second term. In fact, maybe he didn't want it that bad. He'd probably be willing to pay Kerry any amount of money just to get out of his 2nd term, and have somebody else lug the boulder up the hill for awhile. In between my panic attacks, there is a teeny part that is delighted with this chaos: reminds me of a saying, "One must have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star."
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:49 AM
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9. Yes, yes, yes! I've been feeling exactly the same way!
As Nancy Waterman mentioned on another thread, she's taking a Flower Remedy for the first time in a long time. I've been doing this since the election, also.

I feel emotionally and mentally paralyzed...a simultaneous rage and passivity, disbelief and knowing, fear and resignation, hope and despair. The emotional polarities are all working together inside, and it's just.. well, it's exhausting.

The problem is, the Flower Remedies are not helping much! I think partly because the problem feels "outside" of myself -- like my body is saying "there's nothing WRONG with ME. The problem is OUT THERE."

The more I read about new and more States showing election fraud, the more shocked I become...even though I KNOW it had to be rampant fraud that did this.

I'm glad you posted this, Saracat. It really has now spread to the world: the world doesn't believe this either! Have you seen the web sites where all those pictures of Americans are holding signs telling the world "we're sorry", and the other countries have a web site that says "apologies accepted".

It seems like the whole globe is ready for balance; ready to learn to live together in peace and cooperation. There is this EVIL force that is not allowing it. Weird, indeed.

:kick::kick::kick:

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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:21 PM
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21. fency shmensy hoibal drops?
And not working? I am gonna have to try and find where you get these flower drops, and try them out. I'm just too curious about it. When you mentioned paralyzed though, I really connected since that is how I am feeling mostly, too. Maybe there is something stronger to knock out the paralysis, could it be the drops are more for malaise and feeling hopeless, but paralysis is more in the panic family, and are there any drops that would zero in on that moreso. just wondering about life and the planet in general.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:07 AM
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27. Hi yellowdawg...and Yes! There are all sorts of flower remedies!
I know you spend most of your time up in VA, but if you get into Durham, head over to the Wellspring/Whole Foods. Ask one of the clerks to show you to the Bach Flower Remedies section. They have (right there with the remedies) some little books and wheels that describe all the different "states of mind/life" that are addressed by the Flower Remedies.

These Remedies are also a wonderful tool for growth, and balancing your emotional body in general.

:hi: I hope that helps!

:kick:
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 05:08 AM
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31. bach flowers remedies
Thanks, I will check for those in my area. I'm not from VA or NC, though- not sure where you got that idea.
cheers,
dawg
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:28 PM
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33. I also like
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:26 PM
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32. Flower essences have been
a saving grace for me. Highly recommend. Be ready to do the work and have your inner observer ready and they will help you with what you want to see about yourself.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:19 AM
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34. thanks for the link
and the heads up on flower esssences, I have the feeling that they are subtle in their effects. Love stuff like that.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:35 AM
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12. It started mid-week for me.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 10:35 AM by Ilsa
Just a feeling that things were getting ready for a big change. It feels personal, but also much bigger than just me (and my family). It feels a little like evil has been set lose in the world. It has faded a little over the last couple of days, but it is still there.

1) I wonder if we are being watched (like something is about to pass judgement on us);
2) Last night was the first time in ages I had violent dreams.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:47 AM
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13. I'm right there with you.
It feels like either the calm before the storm or being in the eye of the hurricane.

Either way, it has a feeling of "falseness" to it. Waiting to Exhale; not the movie :-); also comes to mind.

Personally, I'm experiencing a state of "limbo" waiting for...something, not sure what.

The energies are swirling with no discerned, as yet, outlet.

Okay, much stream of consciousness in this post.

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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:21 PM
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14. Has anyone else had the creepy feeling that things aren't "right"
Yes.....I have shared it with one other and cannot shake this feeling of foreboding that we are going to be "wounded" somehow.
It is dread....I hope I am wrong.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:57 PM
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16. here's an excerpt of a post I did right after the election
To lift this sad day off of the ground a little - I have a personal mantra - This Too Is God. Trust it all. There are actually many advantages to Bush having to take all of the responsibility for his creation. Our country needs to go through a kind of death/rebirth just like we as individuals have had to do. What real change looks and feels like --- is the death of a way of life!

If Kerry had won we would have celebrated the fact that our polar opposite position was the correct one. Only the small changes in our world can be affected with our votes and good intensions. Real, necessary, powerful change do not work quite the same way. There is always a third and unseen entity waiting to emerge that incorporates the two polls we humans get caught up in. This third entity is what we have been waiting for and the change that brings it about happens in the most unexpected, miraculous of ways.

We have done our best to defeat the shadow of our creation in America and just because we failed doesn't mean we have to stay pitted in our self-righteous position --as much as we believe it to be the correct one.

Apparently it was not! So what IS? -- for sure not Bush. We are waiting to find out what the new position is. Trust and stay attentive and don't become complacent, indifferent and mostly don't become discouraged.

Trust your life enough to fiercely live your own truth -- have the courage to face those aspects of denial within yourself and all will be well--- you will exist in a world within a world and that world is hugely supported by the all of the work we did on the consciousness front over the years. It is the like-minded people who have done and are doing their work who are holding the larger dream. Our attentitiveness and personal work will put is in the best seat in the house to be "At-one" with the wildly alive process of real change.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=111x39899
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:41 AM
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22. death and rebirth --
primary keywords for the planet Pluto.

Pluto IS still transiting the U.S. First House. It began its transit with the first Bush election theft, and it made another hit to the U.S. Ascendent at 9-11.

George Bush has a major Plutonian influence in his chart -- Pluto conjunct his own Ascendant (and a couple of personal planets). In his book, "Planets in Transit," Robert Hand warns for those looking at Pluto transits thru their First House in personal astrology, "don't let anyone Plutonian into your life."

But we did, didn't we? (Altho we seemed to have had precious little choice in the matter, actually.)

Once it's finished with the First House (don't remember offhand when that will be, but a few years down the road), it will enter the 2nd House (Money and Finances) where our own natal Pluto resides in Capricorn. The U.S. will experience its first Pluto Return, something no human ever experiences (because it takes 200+ years for Pluto to make a complete circle of the zodiac). Pluto rules Big Business, Terrorism, Oil (according to Nancy Waterman, altho many astrologers ascribe oil to Neptune), nuclear power, cabals of all sorts, etc. I would expect a complete restructuring of pretty much everything related to our economy, preceeded probably by a pretty thorough crash, in the "death and rebirth" mode. Might not be so catastrophic, but that would require us to get AHEAD of the curve, and I don't know that we're able to do that. Ultimately, it will be for the better -- the getting there, however, might be problematic.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:59 PM
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17. Part of this is the unresolved election
There is still the vague hope "something" will happen to change the outcome. So until it is really definite, we feel unfinished and unable to get on with things.

Another part of this is that Bush is so awful and incompetent, it feels like the country will have to totally fall apart now that he will be continuing his pillage and plunder of the planet. there is no sense of "help is on the way" from any quarter anymore. Nothing to balance the insanity.

I think the economy will only continue to nosedive. This shift away from dollars and toward euros will clearly cause tremendous inflation and an interest rate hike here. It seems to have already begun. I suppose the fear is that there will be some tipping point moment when the slide becomes an avalanche.

I would think it if there is to be something sudden, it would come during a Uranus transit and therefore, possibly begin in late March. Some kind of shift will happen then, but I don't know what, and it will likely come in stages throughout the year during the three passes of Uranus to US Uranus.
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:19 PM
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18. Feelings of things yet to come...
I feel our spirit guides are trying HARD to get our attention. To prepare us for things to come...
If you look at the world as a whole you will see Mother Earth is angry, hurricanes, volcano eruptions, ice caps melting, etc. The universe has a different energy also, like the calm before the storm.
Listen to you 'inner self' that is your guide showing you the way.
We are the ones paying for the 'greed monsters',them with short term goals and no long term benefits. We on the other hand have the power within us to make changes, big or small.

When you are unspired by some great purpose, some extraordinary project, all your thoughts break their bonds;
Your mind transcends limitations, your consciousness expands in every
direction, and you find yourself in a new, great and wonderful world.
Dormant forces, faculties and talents become alive, and you discover
yourself to be a greater person by far than you ever dreamed
yourself to be.
Patanjali

Blessings
~~Celtic
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:31 PM
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20. bird flu??
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:26 PM
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19. Not particularly, S.
I'm not feeling unusually tense that something is about to happen. Not more than usual, that is. I've had this steadily escalating sense of unease, which started in the late 1990's. I kept thinking to myself, "when is this roller coaster going to come down?".

I feel that in many ways, we turned to the Dark Side in the 90's. It doesn't have so much to do with Clinton, it's just that we were so successful, no matter what we did, that it led to a very grandiose feeling of invincibility.

Of course, we saw the Dot-Com bust of 2000, and it was all downhill from there.

I've been worried about the direction we've been going in for a long, long time.

I believe that we can tune in to massive vibrations in the air. I also believe thoughts are an incredibly powerful form of communication. If people are worried about the economy, about losing their jobs, about an impending draft, what Bush is going to do next, they are going to send out powerful messages through their thoughts and their actions.

Sensitive people can pick up on these vibrations. So you could be picking up on massive thought patterns. Consider Usama bin Laden's warning....how can anybody go back to "business as usual" after that? So yes, most people are probably tense.

Now as far as something going to happen, I also believe we have the ability to tune into future events, even on a massive scale. It could very well be that people are picking up on upcoming events, but don't know how to interpret it. They might react by going on a shopping spree, or guzzling a 6-pack, but they will still manifest the intuitive signals.

It's up to sensitive people to interpret the signals. I would suggest that we have out antennas out, so to speak. Listen to the jungle drums.













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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:52 AM
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23. My own response is quite different, I think
Or at least I can't resonate with what you've posted, tho I do have my own sense of "difference in the air."

In my case, I feel increasingly alienated from what I see on TV that I can't tune into it any more. Lately I've been simply forgetting to turn on the TV (which I typically do every single day as soon as I get up and turn on the computer).

It's like that's a completely different world than the "real" world, where *I* live -- another country, another reality or perhaps parallel universe, or a fiction drama or something, but NO connection with my life or they way I perceive things. The people who talk on the TV news shows are so far out of synch with what is ACTUALLY happening, that there's literally nothing they have to say that is worth listening to. In the past, I at least wanted to hear what they were saying, especially guests, but no more. They've all just moved way, WAY beyond me -- to a level of surreality that doesn't compute. Or perhaps I'm the one who's done the moving. No matter, the effect is the same.

My sense of alienation or disconnectedness from what most people consider "the real world" has been growing since at least the mid-90s, but now it seems nearly complete -- as of the "election." It doesn't bother me (tho it did a little at first), but it is kinda interesting to look at it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:03 AM
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24. Getting off "the grid" -- me too! And it feels great.
I dropped buying the Wash Post every day (which I had done since 1981) when they obsessed on Clinton's sex life starting in 1998. That was a first. I hung in there with some television until this election. Now I don't watch any except Boston Legal, which is a show my wife loves. It is irresistible given it has Captain Kirk and James Spader.

It's excellent. I don't give up anything by doing this. I can get news from all over the world on the internet plus all the blogs. I don't need to see any of their garbage. This will change when the Raiders have a team that does not cause me psychic pain to watch (which I hope is soon).

Progress, not perfection.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:48 AM
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25. hope you didn't miss Monday's game then, the Raiders were
the come from behind kids weren't they?

in Denver in the snow no less

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:52 PM
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30. There are exceptions to every rule...finally, some hope.
I'm suffering from R-SAD: Raiders Seasonal Affective Disorder. It hits when the Raiders look like they're going to suck. I had some hope this year with SAP but, ah well...maybe they'll run the table. Next year will be awesome...back to the long pass and all sorts of fun! Keep the faith.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:02 AM
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26. Can it be a sense that half your country is living in denial?
Because that is the way it feels here in Australia too. Okay, so
our election wasn't stolen, but there is still the knowledge that
half the people in the country ignored the obvious and provable
lies, ignored the human tragedy that is now Iraq, ignored the fact
that the President of the US is a congential idiot who can't even
make a speech without the words being fed to him, let alone come up
with a halfway intelligent comment of his own, and are simply
unmoved by the impact of global warming, even though it could spell
the end of human life on this planet within a couple of generations.

There is something surreal in the way so many people are focusing
very hard on their mortgage payments, on their new car, or their
next holiday as though they weren't surrounded by a world in total
chaos. Nobody - not the UN, not the EU, and certainly not individual
countries - has any sense of direction at all. Everybody is waiting
for the 800lb gorilla to make his next move, and talking frantically
about anything else in an effort to pretend that everything in the
world is normal.

It isn't normal, it isn't right, it isn't good - but when so many
people are blind and deaf how do we get the message out? All we can
do is talk to ourselves - no wonder we feel a bit strange.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:35 AM
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28. You just described, perfectly, what life is like in an alcoholic home...
where one parent or the other is an alcoholic/addict, or your spouse is an alcoholic/addict.

And that's the "life" on the planet, when the most powerful leader of the most powerful country is an alcoholic. His illness touches everyone, no matter how they try to stay above the fray.

LOL! What this world needs is a STRONG case of "intervention", and getting the offending party out of the way, so everyone else can move forward.

But WE have to rise above it, learn from it, and go about our lives in the best way we know how. We need to stand up for our principles, and hold to our inner truths.

If we just continue doing what we know to be right and good, the way will become clear.

:kick:
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:14 AM
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29. I can spell "congenital", but I discovered my typo too late to change it.
n/t
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