Raymon Grace on Coast to Coast

[Celebration]

Is anyone out there a huge Coast to Coast fan like me? I actually love trying to separate out all the charlatans, the delusional, the ridiculous, from the real deal. IMHO, Raymon Grace is the real deal. He was on last night. He is a douser, using a pendulum with a bullet as the weight. I actually find that interesting, because I wonder if there is something about gunpowder? I have tried using things like fishing weights, but I do best with traditional things like various crystals, amethysts, etc. Actually, now that I do finger muscle testing, I rarely use a pendulum anymore.

Still, he uses a pendulum for far more than yes/no answers. He uses clockwise for energy in/ counterclockwise for energy out, charges water with the pendulum, removes entities, etc. Once on Coast to Coast he actually charged water over the radio. As a result of that he came out with a charging water DVD. I'm sure it works. I douse all the time and consider myself accurate. This guy may be a master at it though. As usual, listening to him gave me a few ideas for my radionics work.

So, the experiment last night was to remove death from Iraq for a week, or something like that. I have my doubts and I think Raymon does too, but his response to challenges is to just go for it. If it works, it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't.

Anyone with Coast to Coast streamlink should listen to this interview. I found it very motivating and informative. I also recommend Coast to Coast streamlink for anyone who has a little bit of time and a little bit of money. The great thing is that after a couple of days they have clips that are highlights, so you don't have to listen to the whole thing.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/01/15.html

[rumpel]

1. wow

removing death from Iraq for one week - at least let me put some positive energies behind it, too.

thanks for posting - I am still a beginner in both techniques and only use it for emergencies...

:hi:

[Celebration]

2. hmmm

It would be a good project for a group, I think. Supposedly intention and visualization works best with a group THAT HAS THE SAME BRAINWAVE PATTERN. So in a large group there are bound to be enough people to have the same brainwave pattern to make a difference. But the intention needs to be specific, and to be exactly the same in detail.

Honestly, I think one reason Raymon even attempted this was because George had opened his eyes to changing water by distance.........

Gosh, that gives me an idea. I wonder if we could all put our intentions into the water in the Tigris and Euphrates (???). Raymon talked about how greed had to be removed from water.

Iraq is a large area. It is kind of a long shot without something organized.

George wanted him to work on someone that emailed about a cousin with cancer. Thankfully, Raymon said that could take hours and there just was not enough time on that program.

My husband is always challenging me to work on someone or other that has some serious disease, without even communinicating with them about it. For me that is ridiculous, almost. This is time consuming work, at least for me, and getting feedback is important.

[Why Syzygy]

7. To be honest

I'm not a Coast to Coast fan. I lived with a friend for awhile who made me listen to those shows over and over. Not to judge too harshly, but she was a little loose at the ends. Aren't we all.

However. As far as healing goes. I was taught that you absolutely cannot work on someone without their permission. I'm trained in touch. And we never touch without consent. I would think that would apply multiplicty to doing soul work. No. Some Reiki's say, get consent from their higher being. Okay. If you can. I think it is just unethical to try healing OR prayer on someone without their consent.

I do not want anyone praying for me or doing soul or healing work without my consent.
And I give them the same option. It's just a matter of ethics.

Or did I misunderstand?

To address the larger issue, does Iraq want "healing"? Do they want their waters healed?
If so, are they not able to do that? They are an ancient civilization. Someone I think we could learn a lot from. If only people would stop trying to subvert them. How about asking them for a few clues?

I probably have a lot to learn about prayers and healing. I'm just old fashioned enough to believe that someone has to touch a hem or want to pick up their bed and walk or see.

Help me.

[mondo obscurius]

8. O yea to that

I was taught that you absolutely cannot work on someone without their permission.
:applause:

[Why Syzygy]

9. That might just be

the trouble we are in now! Trying to HEAL people (Iraq) without their consent.
Does gw know how to heal? He thinks he does.

Thank you for the yahoo because I believe we get ourselves and others in a lot of karmic disaray when we go about trying to heal someone to our satisfaction.

If only... I lived on a pink cloud. Then everyone should live on a pink cloud. Some people want a PURPLE cloud.

off soapbox .. but I'll be back ;)

[Celebration]

10. I thought it was a little over the top

But, like it or not, there are all kinds of people using intention without permission. In fact, every thought is an intention--it may not work because of various factors. I sure wouldn't do any kind of detailed energy work without permission. It seems an infringement of privacy. Praying for peace in Iraq doesn't seem like it is invading privacy, though, to me. Now I haven't personally tried this, and I don't think it is the greatest idea. Of course there are all kinds of people intending "whirled peas", oops world peace, as well as those intending mayhem.

Sometimes I feel a little strange because my negative thoughts about this administration may be contributing to the instability of our leader. Obviously I am not doing any healing or non healing "work" on anyone connected, but multiply my strong feelings by everyone else that feels like I do, and there is probably a lot of unhelpful negative energy out there. And if he really does have no protective aura, yikes.

So, I don't really know what to do about that, just bringing up the problem.

[Why Syzygy]

11. In my opinion

it is never wrong to pray for whirled peas.

All that amounts to, again imo, is praying for Being to be as it is. One.

I have stopped mentally fighting against this administration. At least for today.
No clue what effect that might have. Except allow me to better love my fellows.

Peas, sister.

[Delphinus]

13. I agree about having to have permission.

That's where (I think) the prayer, "For the highest good of all" comes in.

I simply send energies of light, and of love, and of peace. The energy will be there for them if they are open to tuning in and receiving.

[Why Syzygy]

15. That seems reasonable.

Good input. So hard to do sometimes when we want our own way.

Because we do want light and love and peace. But all do not. There is the dilemma.

[lildreamer316]

3. I was thinking about subscirbing..

it's not very much money per month is it? Like around $6 or something?
Thanks; I will try to get a hold of this interview.

[Celebration]

4. to me it is worth it

Somewhere about six bucks a month I think it is. They've had a couple of energetic healing type people on lately. The have scientific types talking about zero point field, they have numerologists, people wanting UFO disclosure, alternative history spiritual types, complete crackpots, etc. A big fave of mine was a physicist at UConn explaining the science behind the time machine he was building. Oh, yeah, George likes to have Alex Jones on. Alex is a nut, but I really enjoy listening to him. The radio program about his breaking into Bohemian Grove was great!! Down with the New World Order!!

Mainly, I do pick up useful ideas here and there about energy medicine.

[Why Syzygy]

17. Alex is someone I do listen

to. Live from awesome Austin. He's a bit woo-woo. I can take it that far.

[NJCher]

5. my 2 cents on C2C

I'm glad you posted this thread because there are some things about C2C I've been wanting to talk about for a long time. I'm a subscriber and get the podcasts, which I put on myiPod and listen to on a regular basis. I haven't yet listened to the show referenced in the OP but I will listen to it and probably post back here on the topic.

First of all, I think C2C is an amazing business enterprise. Think about it: they have a virtual lock on topics of this nature. There is no other program of this magnitude that discusses the far-out stuff on a regular basis. In that sense, I think they perform a terrific service but at the same time, they're making money and that's fine. I just wish they would dampen some of the huckster type activities, like George Noury investing in gold and that sort of thing.

Second, I think it's worth subscribing to the program simply because every far out theory in the world is tested on that program. I think it's good to just stretch the mind, even with some of the crazy stuff. Consider it "mind play" or whatever. It's something we don't do much of in this culture and as a result, people don't have a clue about other dimensions or realities. The whole worldview could be completely off base but you'd never know it here in these United States. Other cultures don't take that view.

Third, they cover so many different areas that it is like being in a school where all the courses are about metaphysical things. The Web site is great because they feature links to all the book authors, guests, etc. They are good about putting up links from callers, too. The photograph section alone, which is free to anyone who wants to visit, can provide hours of interesting viewing. I've been examining ghost photographs from there for months now.



Cher

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16. completely agree with you

Particularly with the "mind play." If I catch this program late at night I find myself believing more things than I do in the daytime. It must have to do with brainwaves.

Gregg Braden will be on tomorrow night. Programs like that make it worthwhile.

[Why Syzygy]

6. Finger?

muscle testing?

[Celebration]

12. O ring testing

Generally when people get yes/no answers with their fingers, they use O ring testing. This is very well known. I'm going to look for a web page describing it--okay, here is one--

http://www.linkage.co.jp/~oring/e_basis.shtml

I actually haven't read this page, nor do I use this particular method of finger muscle testing, but I sort of invented my own method (lots of people do that). I actually push down my fourth finger with my third finger. But I am double jointed in my fingers, so I think that's why this method is easiest for me.

The O ring finger testing is very well known. In fact, an older acupuncturist from Taiwan that I know uses it, and he really isn't that familiar with applied kinesiology.

My NAET practitioner has a method that I can't do at all--she rubs her thumb up against her forefinger to measure the skin resistance. That makes sense too because that is the lie detector methodology, measuring galvanic skin resistance.

I had to do quite a bit of hard work to get to this point, months of using my body as a pendulum, and using a pendulum, and arm muscle testing. Let's make that years!! Some people catch on really quickly, though.

I think a pendulum, *if* one practices, works for probably 3/4 of people.

[Why Syzygy]

14. I'll take your word for it

See you offboard. But when I feel like I got punched in the gut? Should I take that as a no go?

For real.

I respect you and the work you do, and all you are doing for me.

It just seems that my gut tells me a lot of times. Bad vibes.

I got punched in the gut today.

For the more subtle, let's talk about it.