Just a mind-flash

[Dover]

For some reason, something Nancy Pelosi said recently stuck in my mind.

As everyone knows she's been under a lot of scrutiny lately about why she took impeachment off the table. In fact she's been grilled in various t.v. venues and magazine articles. She has seemed to just blather on almost incoherently at times, without really answering that question or saying much of anything. BUT she did say something that seemed out of place... or I don't understand where it fit or why she mentioned it. I wish I could recall which interview it was (maybe while on The View or in The Nation article?), but she mentioned she was third in the line of succession. Huh?

So this morning, out of the blue, I thought....is something going to happen with Bush/Cheney that
puts her in the presidency? I know there has been talk of convicting them in the world court, but I haven't seen any move in that direction...yet.

I looked up the presidential succession list and explanation at wikipedia and it explained the possible reasons for the succession accordingly:

The presidential line of succession defines who may become or act as President of the United States upon the incapacity, death, resignation, or removal from office (by impeachment and subsequent conviction) of a sitting president or a president-elect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession


Anyway...just one of those flash moments I thought I'd share...or should I have kept it to myself?
And I wonder if anyone else here or at DU picked up on that as well?

[MorningGlow]

1. Dunno, Dover

I always got the impression that she was dodging the impeachment issue so she wouldn't look like she was trying to snag the leadership role (looking like she was staging a coup to put herself in the highest office) BUT that that was put to her by the shadow government ("You don't want to look like you're doing that, do you? Everyone will hate you.") The biggest influence over Pelosi, I've always felt (that's "Felt" with a capital F) is that they've got something hanging over her head, some sort of blackmail or threat, and she's terrified to act because of it. Hence the stuttering and stammering and weak excuses every time someone asks her about impeachment.

Just my $0.02 of course. I could be totally wrong.

[Dover]

2. Well that seems like a possibility too.

I'd need to review that piece again to take second look.

Also, don't know why, I thought about a premonition Pink Tiger shared about the swearing in ceremony. As I recall there was a woman and a black man sworn in. Maybe she or someone who
bookmarked it will refresh my memory.

Well that's enough 'flashing' for today.

[crikkett]

4. Heeeeyyyy

that's a thought isn't it. But I remember that Cheney was present in PT's premonition, * was not.

[MorningGlow]

5. Here it is

Different from what you remember, Dover--PT saw Hillary being sworn in and Obama as VP. Farther down in the thread she say she might be seeing an alternate reality. Looks like she did indeed.

Also, when she mentions that she doesn't see W at the inauguration, it made me think of what I heard on Stephanie Miller this morning--that Cheney won't be attending the Republican convention at all, and Bush will make a speech on the first night and leave immediately after he's done. Perhaps he's going to be persona non grata at the inauguration in '09?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=49322

Try as I might, I am unable to conjure up any vision of GWB leaving the White House in 2009, turning over the reins to a newly elected president. I’ve tried, but the picture won’t come up. That is not to say it won’t happen, but I don’t see him at the inauguration. I don’t see his mother and father, either. It is possible that he is ill, or unable to attend for some reason, but it is also possible that he is not there because he is not president. I feel his absence is a matter of embarrassment; people in his inner circle aren’t talking about it.
I do see Cheney. He is there, at the inauguration, but he is not the president. I see Laura. But not George Bush.

I can see a woman holding a book and giving the oath. (The Chief Justice will not be giving the oath.) The oath will be given with the President Elect’s hand on an archival copy of a book that has never been used before. The commentators are talking about it, because it is significant and it illustrates what President Clinton will do during her term.
The ceremony is followed by a 45 minute address by the new president. A choir sings – it is a black religious choir from the D.C. area. And a reading is given by a female poet, but it isn’t Maya Angelou.

I see President Clinton, again walking partway in the inaugural parade (as they did in 1993) to the White House. She is wearing a hat. I see a lot of blue, white and gold colors around this inauguration. Bill is there, behind her. Chelsea is there, but I don’t see her walking in the parade. I feel that I may be seeing a flashback. But it is different than 1993. The hat is smaller, more offset, and showing a lot of blonde hair.

I have tried to see the vice president coming into office in 2007. I see a black man, surrounded by his family. I think it is Obama.

That is all I’m getting, that and a feeling of relief and a fantastic feeling of celebration. Everybody is so happy, so glad. The mood in Washington and in the U.S. and in the world is one of “Thank God.”

[Dover]

6. Thanks for posting that MG.

I hadn't remembered she specifically saw Clinton.


Well with all the crazy transits this year boding unpredictable results, it ain't over till
the fat lady sings...

[Grateful for Hope]

8. I tend to agree with you, MorningGlow

On every point, in fact.

On the "something hanging over her head" point, I just wish she would come out with whatever it is on her own, and THEN, permit initiation of impeachment proceedings. I can't imagine that whatever it is can be any worse than what we have seen from the repubs.

[Celebration]

3. I wrote a long reply and then decided not to post it

Because it was not related to any psychic impressions or "flash moments." But maybe she is a "walk in." LOL, just kidding.

[BlueIris]

7. I've had feelings on and off re: Pelosi for a while.

One of them was that she might be an acting president, though not necessarily through impeachment (never really gotten any strong "yeses" on the impeachment non-possibility). I still think a Bush health crisis is possible.

[rosesaylavee]

9. I have such strong opinions about this... nothing psychic

but I think Ms. Pelosi would take the fall with Bush/Cheney when they topple. She was part of the leadership that knew about and okd the illegal wiretapping AND the torture off shore and at Abu Ghraib. Robert Byrd is 4th in line and very very old and fragile. After him, Condi Rice is next.

[NJCher]

10. can't remember where I heard this

But it was a fairly credible source. This person says that Pelosi made a deal with Bush/Cheney. The deal was they wouldn't stage another 9/11 if she didn't pursue them on impeachment.

I really wish I could remember where I heard this but it was quite awhile ago (at least a year).



Cher

[Matariki]

11. I don't understand your post

It's not a mystery that the speaker of the house is third in succession after the VP.

Or do you mean you're perplexed about why and when she brought that up?

Maybe she meant that if she pursues impeachment of Bush and Cheney her motives will appear suspect?

[Dover]

12. I don't know why that hit me so early in the morning. My rational mind wasn't switched on yet.

So I can't defend myself completely as to why that particular piece of information about Pelosi became a momentary beacon...OR why I decided to post it exactly.

For some reason that thought just came front and center, perhaps because it just struck me
as odd within the context it was mentioned (although I can't even remember what that source was).
Of course we all know her position in the line of succession, and have our own theories as to why she would take impeachment off the table. Some think she was threatened, some think it's to protect all the Democrats complicit in empowering Bushco's agenda, etc.

But for some reason, in my half sleep, her position seems to have some significance...as though that will become an important factor in what comes to pass....however it comes to pass (which is why I looked up the succession info to review what conditions, other than impeachment, might come into play).

As I said, it was just one of those flashes...like a message rolling up on the magic 8-ball.
Is there anything to it or was it just a rogue thought passing in the night...

"Reply hazy. Try again"






Ask for yourself:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

[conscious evolution]

13. She is just another war criminal

Her being third in line has nothing to do with her failure to bring up impeachment..
If bush was impeached and removed from office she would STILL be third in line behind cheney and whoever is chosen to be the new VP.
According to the Twentyfifth Amendment of the US Constitution,the line of succession only comes into play if the president and vice president are both incapacitated or unable to discharge their duties at the same time.For instance,if both were taken out of the picture by a nuclear war,then their replacement would come from the line of succession.
If bush was removed from office,cheney would move up to president and the vp slot would remain open until a new vp was nominated by the president and confirmed by Congress.

[Dover]

14. I was thinking something like Bush AND Cheney being brought up on criminal charges

in conjunction with impeachment, or something along those lines (whether here in the U.S. or World Court).