The Late Father Malachi Martin on Demonic attack.

[crikkett]

The Late Father Malachi Martin on Demonic attack.

I don't know if you noticed this, but there's a certain disturbance, perturbation of mind, disequilibrium, at least a certain uncertainty in people today. There wasn't 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago.

There is this peculiar thing, this, and it's the demon, there are demons assigned to do this to people.

You get up in the morning and you feel lousy, and you're discouraged about everything, and there's no apparent reason for it: you've got money in the bank, and your wife or your husband are very happy with you, the children are all healthy... and there's no war on, and nobody's out to kill you, and yet you are empty, wry and despondent.

And that means you are under attack. They want also to affect your spirit. So that you spread dissatisfaction, and you spread discontent. You spread un-peace.

And that's why we all love somebody who, when they come into a room, the light comes with them. Life and peace and joy of some kind or other.

They don't make you horse-laugh every moment of the day, but they do give you this. And when they leave, it goes with them and you don't want them to go.

From the first two minutes of this show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIhuuCLnTBw

Earlier in the same interview he described how to defend yourself from demonic attack:

Try this prayer to Christ:
Hide me in your wounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCsMIQZcNM

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1. Thanks for posting

Last night Paul Eno was on Coast to Coast, and I have to say that I prefer his approach to that of Malachi Martin...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/eno-paul/6905

First off, he actually trained to be a priest, but that didn't last after he got into the supernatural. He doesn't call them demons, but something less loaded from a religious perspective--entities, or something else (I forget).

He feels that holy water, rosary beads, etc. only work to a certain extent, and that the religious approach works less well than the elemental LOVE. Holy water works sometimes (and I wonder if that has to do with whether the water was successfully imprinted with love).

I wonder where in the heck all this stuff comes from.

There is an energetic technique that tries to give all of it more scientific names, making it a tad bit less "woo woo"--calling all this "perturbations in the field". Honestly I think the actual name for all this stuff may depend on the individual. A person like Martin would naturally use the more loaded "demon." To me, though, it is all "hex entities". Why, I don't know. Plus they don't personalize themselves to me, as they do to Eno and Martin. To me, they are more like "perturbations in the field" than entities or demons. Whatever, they can absolutely wreak havoc with a person's mental, physical, and spiritual health, at an absolutely subconscious level.

And is this ever WEIRD!!!

[crikkett]

5. Too bad that people are so fearful of "woo"

Wonder is what makes life interesting.

I thought the quote though, was so interesting that it warranted being posted here. The man obviously believed what he was saying. He'd just finished saying that exorcisms in the NorthEast were up 750% to 800%.

Other stuff he said was easier to chalk up to his own religious tradition...

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6. Honestly, mostly it isn't a matter of "possession"

As Shallah says, fragments, such as miasms, etc. don't necessarily take over. They just make life miserable.

But people can be possessed as well.

Yes, WAY TOO BAD that people don't know all this. There may be some here who reject this notion, and at one time I probably would have.

[Shallah Kali]

8. I agree possession is thankfully rare

but IMO it does happen. Saw and hear things from a person that mutual friends - including one with no imagination to her - also saw and heard and like me at first dismissed because we didn't believe, it would be weird and scary to pay attention to the stuff coming out of that person. THAT was when I got serious about getting my empathy under control, learning self-protection and trying to figure out how to do a do it yourself distance exorcism to get that thing out of my neighborhood and the neighbor it had set up housekeeping in. It basically came down to calling upon Archangel Michael and any other beings able to take it away. Then checking in every week or so to make sure this person wasn't re-possessed since she was so full of holes in her energy.

Now some entities are stuck and really don't belong. I encountered something scary but not fully dark once that was a relief to have gone. Still don't know what it was just that it didn't belong stuck in my grandmother's basement and it was POed about it. Asked beings of light to take it to where ever it belonged and it was gone. :shrug: A few times I have bumped into souls that got lost and didn't cross over, probably dying in a traumatic way. for them I prepared myself calling in my guides & allies, grounding, etc. Then I asked the highest guides of the soul to join and offered Reiki to the guides to assist the soul. I did this so I wouldn't get caught in the soul's spiral of confusion/fear/etc. Also I didn't want the soul to possibly try to glom on to me as a source of comfort like the spirits w/Whoopie Goldberg in ghost. Finally I didn't want to force anything on the soul, just give the guides some closer-to earth plane healing energy to help the soul, if it chose to accept, get out of the spiral and choose where it wanted go. I am not expert, just did the best that I could when I stumbled across the situation and not knowing anyone who does spirit releasement to consult.

[eilen]

9. My dh is on a job that he really wanted

but now, regrets it as he feels the two men he is working with are vampires. One of them professes to be "born again", drinks half a case of beer a night, works only 6 months from the year 'to take care of his kids" and blares Glenn Beck and Rush Limbough all day long, constantly complaining about the "socialism" the country will face and "liberals/Democrats". My husband wonders if this guy hates socialists so much, what the hell is he doing in the union? Maybe he should follow some free range capitalism he spouts off so much and fund his own healthcare and unemployment. I digress. The other cohort is very smart, eccentric but a compulsive slob. He has piles of junk and garbage in the work area so bad... rotting piles of food that's been sitting there for who knows how long. Dh asked him if his truck had rats, not to be funny but was actually curious. He said he thinks the guy got insulted but sheesh, it is a dumpster on wheels. My dh is a bit OCD so the clutter is draining him. Also this guy addresses him like "hey you, go there, do this" -- dh has no idea what the plan for the day is. On top of that he gets annoyed listening to the state workers, who all complain about their jobs all day and are, interestingly, dittoheads as well (supporting the radio shows being played all day).

I don't know how to really help him with this. He says he is just going to ignore the Dittohead but he is going to ask that he not play the radio so loud all day-- I told him he should protest the radio, make him turn it off and listen to his propaganda on his own time. Dittohead also tries to make comments that are politcally targeted to instigate arguments (which I feel is hostile). I told him to try and see if he can be paired up with someone else if he can -- there is a gal from Canada working with them. But it really stinks, all that negative energy being amplified between these people.

That's what is dragging on my dh when he gets up in the morning.

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11. whew

Hopefully he can get paired with other people. I do feel that people who purposefully listen to hate radio are opening themselves up for a lot of mind parasites, etc. Then they just DO end up getting partially possessed.

Maybe he can offer to help clean out the work area of the one person, because he sounds preferable. He can pray that the six month work period of the one guy is up soon.

Co-workers can be a huge problem, but worse is bosses with control issues.

If your dh keeps this job, he needs to do some cleansing rituals every night, IMHO.

[eilen]

17. I don't think this person would allow Mike to clean up the supply room/office

Mike said if he had gotten that job, he'd put every man on the job of cleaning it out and organizing it. I think the condition of the shop is an OSHA or Health Dept. violation. This guy is a pack rat and has many control issues. Dh says he is very smart but too smart for his own good. One example, he insisted on making dowsing rods for each of the guys on the crew to find a buried cable. Mike says, sure, you can find anything electro-magnetic with a dowsing rod but common sense of seeing where the other lines begin and tracing to the connection would have taken an hour less time.

The talk radio is a form of mind control/brain washing. Disclosure: I listen to some progressive talk once in a while but never all day and only for a particular show and rarely listen to the entire 3 hours (who has that kind of time?). I won't listen to angry people on the radio for very long, I end up turning it off. Hate radio specifically is very toxic.

Dh is also not very open to the metaphysical. I'll have to do the clearing in a very non-overt way. I am a person who is generally a very sunny optimistic/positive energy type which is why he was and is attracted to being with me. Sometimes his tendency towards the negative brings me down but mostly I think I bring him up. I'm just figuring this all out. I'm the person at work that people say, "do you smile every morning?". Yes!

[Shallah Kali]

12. Hi if your DH isn't into woo enough to learn to shield

there maybe a cheat you can do to help. Ask his Higher Self to consent to he shielding then wrap him in a bubble of light sending a grounding cord into the core of the earth. The grounding cord helps stablize and strengthen the shield plus it provides another way for the shield to discharge the gunk it encounters. Ask your and his guides to help with this. If he and you are willing try brushing down his aura when you see him after work. Intention alone is enough to get rid of a lot of the psychic garbage that you then either clap three times to discharge & transmute or shake off into an vizulized fire, Purple is excellent transmuter of bad vibes. If he is willing to do the aura clearing himself he can do on any breaks he is allowed. Another thing that may help is a piece of jet which is actually a type of coal. WONDERFUL at absorbing bad vibes but when around psi vamps and the like needs regular recharging. Use Reiki or hold the stone asking your guides & allies to charge it putting their hands on yours or on your crown chakra. One more thing to try if you are comfortable with it - ask Archangel Michael for a Pillar of Light to protect you daily and another for your husband. And just for full throughness ask him to remove anything you picked up second hand as well as from your husband cutting any cords, sealing the energy body from future cords and again, just to be extra careful, removing any harmful entities or thoughtforms in or around the places of work. People are always forming cords good and bad which is how our chains get yanked and why relationships breaking up or even moving leaves the heart feeling torn cuz the person really did leave (part) of their heart energy in San Francisco.

Some psi vamps loose interest in a person & seek other targets when they start shielding. Same with those who dump their bad vibes on others. They no longer get the sense of relief after venting on the person or get the charge from absorbing the other's good vibes.

[eilen]

18. Thanks so much for your ideas

Mike is a skeptic but shielding (I could put it another way) may appeal to him. I can help clear him at night. I can suggest he soak in a epsom salts bath which would help his muscles and joints too.

[Shallah Kali]

19. would it be better to put it across maybe as psychological hardiness technqiue

that tricks the subconscious into helping him blow off jerkish behavior? Or I don't know - how people psych themselves up to walk on bed of hot coals or martial artists break bricks with their bare hands? Mr. Miyagi say focus power!!!

[Shallah Kali]

2. Who ya gonna call???

I call Archangel Michael and Kali myself. She eats demons for breakfast! OK not really, says they taste nasty and would rather have Tofuky :P Anyhoo they can cross over harmful entities whether they want to go or not, take 'em to a place where they can't hurt anyone and be offered a chance for healing and change. If it is a negative thoughtform (energy that has taken on a quasi-life of it's own) they can transmute the energy which dissolves the harmful thoughtform and then can be recycled into healing energy to help undo the harm done.

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3. Recycling is cool.

"negative thoughtform energy" - is that a gollum?

[Shallah Kali]

4. Thoughtform = meme = Tulpa = miasm = egregore = Golem.

All different ways of saying a bit of energy has taken on a life of it's own. Some are deliberately created constructed thoughtforms - tulpas, golems, etc. -but most are globs of energy like worry where a person worries again and again about the same thing and often thinking the same phrase. An example of this is one handed down in my Mom's family. Whenever she is greatly stressed she will exclaim 'I don't know why I bother, I might as well give up'. Scared the heck out of me as a kid. Anyhow one day I caught myself exclaiming it to my shock esp. as I wasn't feeling dispairing, just frustrated and PMS-cranky. A few days later pondering why my Mother's words came out of my mouth I asked her why she said it. She denied ever saying anything like that but said she remembered her Dad, a pessimist who figured nothing was ever gonna be any good so why bother (and proceeded to do as little as he could to get by), exclaiming it frequently. Mini-revelation time (cue beam of light & celestial choir). After that I zapped myself good with Reiki to delete that thoughtform not just the phrase but the hopeless/fruitless wad of emotion that popped up along with it.

IMO thoughtforms show one more reason it is healthy to work on negative and repetitive thinking. Delete those mental broken records that weight us down so there is room for positive healthy thinking to grow and take root. Christopher Penczak in one of his books suggests thinking of nulifying any negative thoughts the moment they occur such as picturing a big VOID rubber stamp slamming down on that thought. It has taken time for me but I have gotten rid of most of my negative self-talk and assume-the-worst mental records/thoughtforms. You can send reiki, breath light into the brain and any other body part (such as feeling a worry thoughtform in the stomach), do the VOID thing or whatever else technqiue is most comfortable and effective to use. I *hate* the technique that some psychologists suggest of snapping a rubber band on the wrist to change thought patterns!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtform
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Forms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore
http://books.google.com/books?id=5Rc81HHJz2gC Thoughtforms by Annie Wood Besant, Charles Webster Leadbeater

BTW anyone who deliberately tries to make a thoughtform please remember to unmake it later so it doesn't go Cylon on you or anyone else. I haven't tried in this life but once I read up a bit on 'em I figured just to be sure I asked my guides to unmake any thoughtforms I left loose in other lifetimes

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7. some psychologists

Say snap the fingers! That might work. Then send love to the situation. Someone with lots of obsessive compulsive might need some help--like inositol!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9169302?ordinalpos=17&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

"These results suggest that inositol has therapeutic effects in the spectrum of illness responsive to serotonin selective re-uptake inhibitors, including depression, panic and OCD, and is not beneficial in schizophrenia, Alzheimer's ADDH, autism or ECT-induced cognitive impairment."

[Shallah Kali]

10. Vitamins are good, even non-ocd folks go off kilter lacking nutrients

esp. the Bs.

I am borderline OCD but I know many people who think negatively and use negative self talk who don't come close to my mini-monkishness. People who call themselves an idiot and other names everytime they make an error even trival things like knocking over a drink. Call themselves names and mean it, not just expressing a bit of normal anger or frusteration. Me, now me I used to call myself just about every insult ever hurled at me. Thankfully I can't remember them all anymore but it was at least several sentences worth of insults plus the heavy duty emotional charge that came with them which included the unprocessed undischarged shame felt from all those times I was insulted and verbally abused. So not a good thing, not healthy at all so these days I try to gently point out to those who verbally berate themselves it does not improve their situation, it increases stress, wastes energy and would they ever say the same to me or another friend if they made the same mistake? Treat yourself at least with the same minium level of human dignity you would grant a stranger and a friend. If you do otherwise please work to correct this habit.

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13. Negative self talk

A good friend and I both have this problem and we call each other on it all the time, using what you said "would you talk about a friend the way you are talking/thinking about yourself"?

I have OCD Pure, with is thinking OCD; it almost destroyed me as a child, so my thoughts generally need to be countered/questioned when I fall into that pattern.

This thread has given me more information than I expected (not being a fan of the late Father Martin and turning off Art Bell immediately if he was the guest, LOL; none of that organized religion fanaticism and fear for me)!

The thought form creation gives me a lot to consider though. I do believe negative entities of some kind, maybe just coming from projections, exist; (I just avoid information from religious groups that have been often less than honest with humanity for a couple of thousand years, LOL). I have seen people literally transformed into something that is not their personality through listening to the hate radio guys. Then when they ease up on that spew, they become more themselves again. It is like an illness, possession might be the right word.

I have a lot to consider and think about now. Shallah Kali, thanks for all your good suggestions for countering negativity and protecting people surrounded by it.

[Shallah Kali]

14. Details and interpretations vary widely but in the end it comes down to basic psychic hygene

Just as it is good to wash hands after handling germy things it is good to clear one's energy. Just as it is wise to wear a coat when it is freezing out, unless you are one of those storied monks who can melt ice meditating, it is good to reinforce the aura's natural boundary with a coating of good vibes when facing potentially harsh energies. I am more holey than holy so I shield and ground daily. Some can let the crud just wash through them automatically or it bounces off like a nerf ball with no harm done. me being around a seething rwinger or anyone generic rage-o-holic is like standing in front of a sandblaster w/out protection. some have called me paranoid but it is simple practicality. I don't panic at the thought of being around bad vibes, I just do at least a quickie visulization so I don't feel like crap because I have someone else's headache. :shrug:

Work with whomever *YOU* feel comfortable with, your higher/innerself, a personofication of the divine, or something else. I am comfortable working eclectically with a hodge podge of beings but that is me. I use myself as an example because I know what works for me and sometimes it suits others and others it hopefully helps them find something else that suits them. My favorite book on this topic is The Witch's Shield by Wiccan & Reiki master Christopher Penczak (Anyone intersted can read most of the book here for free: http://books.google.com/books?id=xkUxEaO1J2MC ) as he isn't into fear mongering but suggestion a variety of practical tools that can be changed and adapted. I am a do it myself new agey none of the abover when it comes to religion but was still comfortable with his book. The probably are other good books out there but after buying several books of which only his did me any good I decided to save my $. If Penczak isn't your cup of tea hopefully some others here can share their favorite books and websites which might be right for you.

The hate and paranoid fear fox and the like spew is horrible. Just looking at things from a psychology view point it is toxic. The more you are around it the more it exacerbates any existing issues in that area. Add in knowledge of how psychic energy works and you can see how it works on that level as well. Fear and hate thoughtforms and yes some entities who feed on negative emotion ick. There are family thoughtforms, cultural group thoughtforms, religious thoughtforms 0 how many of those RW relgious who think they saw Jesus actually ran into a thoughtform instead of the actual Prince of peace! and personal monkies on the back. People with Sight can see the suckers. Glad I can't. I just know sometimes when working on someone there is something there, sometimes what it is (arrow from past life, energy picked up from another) and how to remove it. I have been focusing more on getting my own act fully together lately but have worked a bit to see if there is someway to help transmute some of the big nasties aka thoughtforms of War, Fear the People Who Aren't Our Kind, Endtimer crap. I visulize disconnecting any possible connections from thoughtforms of fear even of legit concerns so my bit of emotion is not fuel for those fires. I could *feel* the day after 9/11 the pull to watch the news as much as possible and started getting paranoid expect attacks in a small town grocery store. I knew then I had to turn it off and only read in small bits online stopping when I felt that pull heading towards compulsion. I felt guilty like somehow I owed to those who died to pay every iota of attention possible which I suspect was the thoughtform trying to get fed again. In the end in any case it didn't do anyone any good if I let myself develop a new set of phobias and compulsions. Maybe I thwarted a harmful thoughtform just that much by not getting sucked in, maybe not.

re: OCD - I am sorry you have experience this and for so long. I wish I knew something to suggest but I am still working out how to treat me with other issues more pressing. It took me must have been a year to make serious progress on the negative self talk, maybe longer. Everytime I did it I Reikied myself at least 2-3 deep breaths, longer if I could. Reiki to the brain to clear that thought program and reiki to the area(s) of the body I felt the emotion of the thoughts as well. Much nice than snapping elastics a gazillion times a day and less conspicious. Before my attunement I would breath light in whatever color felt right into the brain and body. I relate to thinking of the brain as being like an organic computer so I thought of deleting the bad programming and replacing it with acceptance of my humanness which means I will screw up at least some of the time so I might as well at least intellectually accept it, leaving me with that much more energy to devote to correcting the situation.

Sorry to blab on so. :blush: esp. for the bad english. Never did good at it and writing at school, would rather read other's stuff. & the 'net wasn't around then so I never figured to be a writer even this much :p

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15. That's really good information

It makes sense to me.

I do find myself avoiding various news shows on tv in order not to get drawn into those awful fear feelings that come with them. It just feels disgusting now! It is very much like something is taking form and raking across my nervous system with sharp fingernails. It was a relief when both my husband and I decided to turn the stuff off when we are together in the evenings having dinner and such. I will focus more on shielding, I believe what you say about the psychic energies. They exist, meditation and grounding exercises have shown me that. And I recently had an energy healing session that proved this to me beyond my "too good of an idea to be true" built-in denial.

My OCD has become much improved with various nutritional supplements (L-tyrosine, fish oil, EPO, various minerals, Inositol, and GABA and/or St. Johns Wart in the winter or when symptoms warrent), very healthy diet, regular exercise, meditation and learing particular self-talk methods from my therapist. I am fortunate to have a therapist who recognises that many natural remedies can be quite effective, especially since drugs were never helpful in my case. I in no way suffer as I did when I was a teenager (this problem emerged exactly with the onset of puberty). I have found many tools, thankfully. One particularly helpful tool has been the internet and gaining the knowledge that the way my OCD works is not rare, and the symptoms I have are very common, garden variety; and do not mean I am insane, which was my big fear at age 12.

It is always good to get more information. And delving more into energy knowledge as well as spiritual information is becoming very helpful to me at this point in my life.

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16. Have you looked into EFT?

You could do some tapping on acupuncture points, and putting in love of self any time you start symptoms.

"Even though I occasionally have negative feelings toward myself, I wholly and completely accept and love myself" Tap, tap, tap.

www.emofree.com

Lots of people use this technique to great benefit!!

Kudos to you for getting lots of information about this subject.

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20. Here's something related...

Cher turned us on to C2C free downloads through 6/14. This is one of them....
Date:
05-29-09
Host:
George Noory
Guests:
Gary Spivey, Open Lines

Broadcasting live from the OnStar studios in Detroit, George welcomed world renowned psychic Gary Spivey during the first half of the program.

Spivey spoke about 'energy blocks,' which he said prevent most people from receiving spiritual information from heaven. Ninety percent of the time a demon is to blame for the block, he explained, noting how these malignant spirits cause a host of psychological maladies (cutting, obsessive-compulsive disorder, depression, rage). According to Spivey, meditation can clear these demons and bring healing. He also pointed out that autistic children possess a special ability to remove the dark energies that are attacking the planet.

Spivey recounted his trip to the Tulum Ruins in Mexico, where the sprits of Mayan warriors taught him how to turn on their earth-to-heaven portals and gave him the gift of healing. Spivey claims he was able to cure his mom of Alzheimer's and raise up a paralyzed dog just hours after the encounter. Spivey said humanity could use the Mayan portals to receive more of God's energy and usher in a new spiritual age by 2012. Spivey also discussed his work on the Laci Peterson murder case, how pet owners can communicate with their animals, and the benefits of asking God for a replacement spirit.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/05/29

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21. that was a good one

I didn't listen to all of it. I missed the part about the Mayan ruins. Very cool. Thanks.