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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:17 PM
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Racist Scientist smacked down!
Hi, Everyone! I've been debating whether to to share this story though I don't condone violence, especially in the workplace. But I can't help myself. I'd really like some advice.

Well, my sister's husband is White, chemical engineer and runs a lab in a biotech company, and they have my beautiful genius niece. Anyway, there is one particular co-worker, also White and works in another lab, who's made it plain since the primaries that he hates - I mean detests Obama. His sons' also attends my niece's school where she shines like a gem.

I wish that I can relay all the juicy stories about this man but you can imagine how he's insinuated many times that he thinks my BIL and his family are an abomination. Very passive/aggressive fellow. My BIL was the first who I can remember to jump on the Obama wagon before any of us even understood who the candidate was and he predicted from Day 1 that Obama would be our next president. My BIL is very cocky and extremely sure of himself - annoying but we can't help but love him.

This co-worker has always instigated little arguments about Obama and my BIL said eventually his next move will be to call Obama the N-word. BIL said, "When he does that, I'm gonna punch his lights out." Of course, I didn't think he meant it.

Well, I guess the Nobel Award was just too much for this guy to handle and he confronted BIL - as if BIL personally gave the award to Obama :rofl: saying, "Look at the mess your house nigger has created." With fair warning, BIL said, "Take your racist ass out of my lab or I'll kick your ass into tomorrow." The man said, "No, your house nig..."

Before he could finish the sentence BIL knocked the bejeezus out of him. SPLAT! on the lab floor and he was out for a few seconds. When he came to, he was too shocked to physically defend himself and resorted to more racial slurs as he backed out of the lab - "N-word lover" being one of them. Everyone came running out of everywhere asking the beaten man what happened - he didn't want to talk about it but they knew.

To top it off, the ass's supervisor is an Asian-American who did not keep his voice down in the hallway, "I've told you to keep your political opinions to yourself. This is the last time I want to hear you mouthing off about OUR president in this establishment."

What do you think??? Personally, I think BIL is a hero. I am a little worried though because the man is obviously unhinged. BIL is a star at work and his daughter is a star pupil at school and he's got a terrific marriage to my beautiful sister. While this man is in a miserable marriage, a harpie of a wife who won't give him a divorce and sons who do poorly in school. But the kicker is somehow he thinks it's Obama's fault as well as all those who support him.

My sister and BIL aren't worried about it but as funny and sad as it is, I am worried about how far racists can go.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:01 PM
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1. What are the HR policies of the biotech lab?
Most companies would have policies against the type of language used by the guy your BIL decked.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:44 PM
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3. Thanks a lot, Kwassa.
HR is on it, I was just told that their policy is clear about sexism, racism, ageism, et cetera. Won't know more till Tuesday. This is the first time he came out directly with slurs. But it seems other researchers who work directly with him have already filed complaints and streamed into HR, using this incident as an example to deal with him once and for all.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:03 PM
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17. all they have to say is "hostile work environment" and that will scare HR
HR's job is to protect the company, not the employee. I wouldn't be surprised if he got unpaid suspension behind this, due to the paper trail of complaints already received.

Also, they need to beef up security because this nut is the type of person who will strap on his guns and come shoot the place up. He's a terrorist waiting to strike.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 01:24 PM
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18. I'm sorry to have missed this post. Update: You're right. Unpaid suspension!
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 01:25 PM by Kind of Blue
BUT YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS: This man, a proud descendant of the KKK, HR has now proposed to head the company's newly formed Safety Committee "to ensure we have a safe working environment."
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:19 PM
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2. I would be concerned.
The guy seems seriously unhinged.

If he is fired, he will be more dangerous. Maybe his supervisor could get him transferred to another department.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:50 PM
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5. I agree, NOLALady and a little surprised at the laid back
attitude of my sister and BIL. I just have to trust they have a better assessment of the situation than I. Well, HR is on it and in this day and age, I can't imagine they're not thinking of handling this to avoid a worse case scenario.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:45 PM
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4. Definitely a hero (in my eyes, anyway)
:)

The man is obviously deranged and the Asian supervisor is half-stepping if his only response is to tell someone to "keep their political opinions to themselves." Using racially offensive terms like nigger and calling someone a "nigger lover" when you know damn well that their wife is black is fostering the development of a hostile work environment -- grounds for a big ass discrimination and harassment lawsuit. The supervisor and the dumbass truly need to understand that.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the dumbass tries to sue your BIL for assault. You guys need to be ready but please let your BIL know he gets a :fistbump: from me.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:09 AM
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6. Thnaks, Number23.
The dumbass actually leaves his lab to cause trouble in another. Luckily, all staffed were in and apparently could hear a pin drop then gasps after he said house nigger. It seems things are in the works to deal with him and his supervisor has learned of the slurs and not just opines about Obama. I just don't like that he lives in the same area and kids go to the same school.

I never would have believed Obama Deranged Syndrome would ever hit so close to me. Forgive my naivete but this is serious, y'all.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:38 PM
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7. I certainly understand your concern. Misery loves company
and that dude is an obvious douche who may decide to go postal if they fire him. Hopefully, they can dole out some other kind of disciplinary action. Nevertheless, he needed to be put in his place and please thank your BIL for me and all of us. Your BIL is alright with me. He sounds like one heck of a guy.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:46 PM
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8. Thanks, Fire1.
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 10:48 PM by Kind of Blue
He really is an amazing guy. His childhood story, even before birth, would break your heart to pieces and having a family of his own is his greatest joy and dream come true, after being told for so long they couldn't have kids.

I don't understand why the douche hasn't been fired. The last incident was a public apology he had to make to keep his job after going off on the owner. The owner??? and he's still around. I don't get it but I think going postal has to be a major factor. Fear is a powerful thing.

edited to address Fire1.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:48 AM
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9. I think he should be fired.
This "fear of going postal" thing will only excuse his behavior further. It sounds like this guy has a track record of inappropriate behavior already, and it may have nothing to do with his racist views, either, though this type of derangement can go hand in hand with other problems, of course.

I'm surprised that he went off on the owner and still has a job. If he is an at-will employee, he can be gone right now.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:39 PM
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12. I think part of their dilemma is that he is very affable but
incredibly passive aggressive. I agree with you that he does have a history of weird behavior because he throws just enough red meat and then backs off causing many of his co-workers to feel as if they may over-react or are over reacting. So race is not the only factor. He is an equal opportunity ass.

After going off on the boss, he spoke at length to him and wept about his marital situation and how he doesn't even have a bank account in his own name because his wife is so domineering. "I'll lose my kids if I lose this job. I'll do anything to keep this job. blah-blah-blah," promising to get counseling. Feeling very sorry for him, I guess they thought public humiliation would do the trick :crazy:

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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:44 PM
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13. Well, here we go again. Very sorry about this.
You know, I go out of the way to make sure I only have one screen open and this double posting still happens! Admins don't respond to my call for help either. Getting to the point of being afraid to post. At least I didn't hijack someone's thread this time.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:40 PM
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15. It's the angel in your sig line. She's working her magic!
:)
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:03 PM
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16. You may be on to something.
It is just the darnedest thing. I know when I'm upset or emotional - this sounds crazy - funny things happen with the computer when I'm working offline. I edit transcripts for local and national news networks, so I try to keep my emotions in check.

It's happened a couple of times in another group but in this group, I try extra hard but it never fails, if the topic is emotional I can just be sitting and thinking and BAM, it goes haywire. It must be magic telling me to get grip :crazy:
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:09 AM
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10. To belabor the obvious
The guy ain't right to start a fight on a verboten topic knowing full well that he's likely going on the floor. :crazy:

An old saying from high school comes to mind--don't let your mouth write a check your fists can't cash.

He should've been fired long before it came to this for unprofessional and disruptive conduct.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:13 PM
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11. You're right and for the owner to delay the inevitable may well
come back to bite him in the ass if someone is injured or worse.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:49 PM
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14. It amazes me that some want to believe people like him
do not really mean any harm and let it go time after time. After all, it's just words. Ha!
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