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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 01:05 PM
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OT: McCain and Iraq
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 01:06 PM by ProSense
From Robert Reich:

Monday, November 20, 2006

John McCain's Real Plan for Iraq

I talked with John McCain Sunday morning in the green room just before “This Week.” I asked him why he continued to call for more troops for Iraq when he must know it's a political non-starter. He said he thought it important for the morale of the troops.

McCain gives every impression of meaning what he says, which is one of his greatest assets. But I simply can’t believe this one. What’s most important for the morale of the troops is knowing they’ll be coming home soon, not hearing some politician say we need more troops when there’s no possible chance of that happening.

I think McCain knows Iraq is out of our hands – it’s disintegrating into civil war, and by 2008 will be a bloodbath. He also knows American troops will be withdrawn. The most important political fact he knows is he has to keep a big distance between himself and Bush in order to avoid being tainted by this horrifying failure. Arguing that we need more troops effectively covers his ass. It will allow him to say, “if the President did what I urged him to do, none of this would have happened.”

McCain is smarter on this score than Dems who intend to engage in post-Baker Commission “what we must do now” bipartisanship. It may make Dems feel relevant and important, but it will also make them complicit in the impending failure. Come 2008, they will share the responsibility for the horror of Iraq. HRC will be drawn in, as will Barak Obama and all other Dem notables who will feel it necessary to participate in a “plan.”

In the end, McCain alone will be able to escape blame. At least, that’s what I think he’s thinking.


Unbelievable!

Posted in GD by Swag.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 01:20 PM
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1. A timetable for withdrawal
Political summit and real participation by the Arab League and UN. I think that's distinctive enough, and the right course to take as well.

How come Reich doesn't write the obvious for those with a real strategy to actually do what Americans want and end this war.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:21 PM
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2. I'm beginning to believe
it's fear!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:25 AM
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3. Candidates Iraq Glance
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:28 AM
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4. Thanks for the summaries.
hey, most of the Repubs don't have a plan other than stay the course, except for McCain. Gulliani's is a non answer in my opinion.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:52 AM
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5. The same is true of most of the Democrats too
though part of the problem is only the President can make any plan firm.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:42 AM
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6. OT: Here it comes again,
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 12:16 PM by ProSense
the RW "no-record" meme. Despicably, this person is claiming Kerry is lying about his record. My response:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2780984&mesg_id=2782902

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:42 PM
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7. Nice smackdown n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 01:50 PM by politicasista
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:05 AM
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8. So much for that
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32450-2003Sep18?language=printer

Knew it all along, but the link helps, from CNN poll thread.
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