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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:32 PM
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Dean Misstates Party Platform on Gays
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer

Democratic chairman Howard Dean mischaracterized his party's platform on gay rights in an interview courting evangelicals, then set the record straight Thursday when an advocacy group called him on it.

Dean told Christian Broadcasting Network News that the 2004 Democratic platform declares "marriage is between a man and a woman" — just one of the points he made in reaching out to religious conservatives who are largely hostile to the party.

But the platform does not define marriage that way, and his remarks prompted the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force to return a $5,000 donation from the Democratic National Committee.

Dean later acknowledged his misstatement, but the group sent back the money anyway. "We need for Governor Dean to demonstrate real leadership on our issues," executive director Matt Foreman said in an interview, "not to equivocate depending on the audience."

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060511/ap_on_re_us/democrats_gays;_ylt=AuSdbHGcDVR0G3hK4svCShmyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:33 PM
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1. Wow, this is the first time I've seen a post about this
:eyes:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:35 PM
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2. Trying to be reasonable about all this
Edited on Thu May-11-06 03:36 PM by Jacobin
I understand why gay marriage is a single issue with some.

My single issue is IraqNam.

Who am I to quibble with other single issue voters? I just would like for the world to be around for us to be able to discuss things like gay rights. That's all.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:35 PM
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4. Well, I hadn't seen anything on here about it.
But then again, I don't spend 24/7 here. Sue me. ;-)
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:42 PM
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7. Okay, I'll need your full name/address/place of employment
and social security number. Oh, forget that - I'll just give the NSA a call!!! :P
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:44 PM
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LMAO!!!
:rofl:

They probably already have a file for me. As many calls as I have made to politicians voicing my concerns, they are most likely already on to me.

:hi:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:47 PM
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10. At least all of us at DU will be in the same cell! n/t
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:49 PM
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13. Thanks. This is the first published news story I've seen about it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:35 PM
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3. Say one thing to the Christian group and then say exactly the opposite
Oh I misspoke when talking to the Gay hating Christians because I wanted their vote/money.

To you Gay lovers, I like gays, now give me your vote/money.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:37 PM
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5. He's done more than just 'saying things', in fairness
As governor, I seem to recall that he pushed through civil unions, but correct me if my memory has faded.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:44 PM
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8. Then if he agrees with that why is he telling gay-haters he agrees with
them?

Oh yeah right. He misspoke.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:45 PM
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9. He screwed up
However, I don't think that makes it appropriate to pretend he's only 'talked' about gay rights and has done nothing.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:48 PM
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12. But that removes the anger and then it's just no fun n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:48 PM
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11. You are going to have a tough time convincing me Dean is anti-gay
He has a long record and history to the contrary.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 04:01 PM
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15. He's a person. He fucked up. Such is life.
If people think he's anti gay, then they haven't been paying attention. I run into the same problem with Kerry all the time. Criticism of someone you don't really take the time too look at in depth.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:38 PM
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6. That's what I was looking for
He misspoke. And he knows he misspoke. Alrighty then.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:52 PM
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14. quote of What dean actually said

His dumb statement italics, the heart of the matter in bold

"The Democratic Party platform from 2004 says that marriage is between a man and a woman," Dean told Robertson. "That's what it says. I think where we may take exception with some religious leaders is that we believe in inclusion, that everybody deserves to live with dignity and respect, and that equal rights under the law are important."

http://365gay.com/Newscon06/05/051106dean.htm
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