Should We Microchip Immigrants?

[leftyladyfrommo]

I would say "no" and that is about the scariest thing I have ever heard.

But I think there are people out there who think it is a great idea.

http://www.livescience.com/scienceoffiction/060531_rfid_chips.html

Gees - Big Brother just keeps getting closer and closer and no one even seems to mind. It is so odd. 20 years ago people would have just been jumping up and down and hitting the streets with picket signs and rotten tomatoes.

[sweetheart]

1. bar coding and tatoos are good enough

Some patches on their clothing, showing their religion
and sexual orientation, and the removal of all rights,
welcome to slave country.

[sui generis]

2. serial number on the forehead

it's more humane and we'll be able to see who's who.

Oh, sorry, I was talking about doing that to republicans :blush: :shrug: my bad

[leftyladyfrommo]

9. Well, Republicans should just be branded.

I wonder what the brand should say? And where should it be placed?

[Warpy]

3. I won't even microchip my CATS

They're indoor beasties, so I don't see the point. If I had a cat that roamed or a dog that knew how to dig under a fence, I might be tempted, although I'd prefer a collar and ID tag for both.

This is just plain stupid.

Oh, I loathe conservatives.

[CountAllVotes]

16. I have a pet that is micro chipped

I got it before it was micro chipped. What a mess! I tried to correct the records registered and they could not find anything! Great system alright and I was on hold for at least 30 minutes. I finally got it semi-straightened out but they still do not have my name spelled properly! :grr:

I wanted to get the chip removed and to have that done it requires major surgery! :grr: again ...

:dem: :kick:

[dave502d]

4. Hell no. n/t

[helderheid]

5. Pretty sure my husband would be pissed off if they tried to do this to him

[datadiva]

6. If we microchip immigrants

We'll be next. It's a given. I've heard there are companies right now who are doing this to employees to track them. Salesmen, truck drivers, etc. I am assuming its with the employees permission, but I wonder if they lose their jobs if they refuse. Scary Shit this is! But not surprising. :scared:

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. There is more information on this at the bottom of the link.

Who in their right mind would let a company microchip them?

[casual hex]

26. That is the endgame

Of course we'll be next. Immigrants don't have a strong lobby, so who will resist their chipping? But then some as-yet unknown terrorist event will happen which, coincidentally, could have been prevented if we were all required to implant personal chips, and the "success" of the immigrant chipping program will be hailed, and voila, before you know it you'll be lining up down at the local VeriChip ("RFID for people") office waiting for your own personal tracking device.

[genieroze]

7. Should we be chipped when we leave this country?

[UTUSN]

8. Let's see, the Star of David and the Pink Triangle are used up... n/t

[tjwash]

10. How about we just tattoo ID numbers on their arm like they did in Aushwitz

[stepnw1f]

12. I'd Rather Live in the Woods Naked

then have a chip in me.

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. Or be a bag lady and live under a bridge.

Kind of cold here in the winter for that.

Really, if it comes to that we are lost. And it will be too late to turn back.

[JuniperLea]

13. I hate that my dog has one... but he loves to run

And I'm afraid for him.

This is the lowest thing I've ever heard. There's not one damn difference between this and making someone wear the Star of David on their clothes or numbers tattooed on their arms.

[leftyladyfrommo]

17. It is actually worse - these people can be tracked by

computer.

We don't even do this to convicted felons. Murderers, perverts.

[JuniperLea]

28. Earth arrest!

That couldn't be more scary... or more 1984.

[sweetheart]

21. All it takes is 1 time

When your doggie runs off, and you wonder if the tag has the mobile telephone
number of the one you lost last week, that you might never see your friend
again. I got all mine chipped, for the sin, they are safer for it, and it enables
them to get a european pet-travel passport, that their vaccinations are tied to
the chip.

[JuniperLea]

27. Better safe than sorry

Our little pooch is a handful when out and about... but cute as a bug and sweet as can be:)

I'm reminded of horrified looks I got when I used to put a leash on my son... he was three at the time and insisted on walking (running!)everywhere. He was overly friendly, prone to hugging strangers, etc. And it got to be a real hassle trying to give him some little boy freedom and still maintaining close watch and control.

I went to Disneyland with a friend visiting from Holland with a boy a year younger than mine. In Holland, it's a common practice to walk with your child in a harness and leash. Boy! Did we get daggers! haha! Oh well, our boys felt free and "big"... and the moms felt safer. After that, the independent little guy wore that gear whenever we went out in large crowds. I didn't feel the need to scold him for being friendly or inquisitive. Win win...

[sweetheart]

29. I ran in to a kid on a leash not long back

I asked his father if he could pick him up with it, and the kid
went flying up in to the air a few feet, and i was laughing at the odd expression of the child,
as he passed by in mid air, what the stranger whispered to dad for such a levitation.

[leftyladyfrommo]

31. The have had kid leashes for ever - I remember them from

when I was little. The kids are really much safer in public places with them on. And that way the parents aren't always ynking their little arms in the air. But everyone just thought it was horrible.

[mwooldri]

15. They already have my fingerprints and my DNA....

... what more do they need? Perhaps I should be fitted with a radio collar so they know my whereabouts at all time.

I'm not a fricking animal. I'm not a number either.

I'm a free man!

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. That's just it. With these jobbies they can track you so they

would always know where you are.

I guess you could rip the chip out - which is what most immigrants would probably do. Just take it out and slip off into the nite.

[mwooldri]

30. Otherwise shares in the Reynolds Wrap company are going up.

We'll need all that tinfoil to wrap ourself up in!

[Avalux]

18. We'll all be RFIDed eventually.

It'll start with tracking illegals and guest workers, then expand to other groups until we're all implanted. Those who refuse will be breaking the law and imprisoned in detention centers.

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. They would have to find us first.

[Avalux]

22. True.

I'll disappear into the wilderness before I allow these MFers to treat me like their property; a mere commodity.

[conflictgirl]

23. WTF?!

I don't personally believe in the Bible but the whole embedded microchip thing reminds me a little too much of the "Mark of the Beast" that would herald the end days.

If they actually do start microchipping immigrants, I guarantee kids will be next. The authorities will promote it the same way they promote getting your kids fingerprinted, by using scare tactics to appeal to parents' fears of their kids getting kidnapped. You watch. I'm willing to bet money we'll see microchipping kids within the next 5 years.

[leftyladyfrommo]

24. I think they are already doing that in Great Britain

Kids who are a problem - running off and stuff - get chipped so their parents can keep up with them.

[The2ndWheel]

25. Children of the Machine

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2006/02/21/children-of-the-machine/

New technological advances could make us susceptible to perpetual surveillance

A tag like this has a maximum range of a few metres. But another implantable device emits a signal which allows someone to be found or tracked by satellite. The patent notice says it can be used to locate the victims of kidnapping or people lost in the wilderness(6).

There are, in other words, plenty of legitimate uses for implanted chips. This is why they bother me. A technology whose widespread deployment, if attempted now, would be greeted with horror, will gradually become unremarkable. As this happens, its purpose will begin to creep.

At first the tags will be more widely used for workers with special security clearance. No one will be forced to wear one; no one will object. Then hospitals – and a few in the US are already doing this(7)- will start scanning their unconscious or incoherent patients to see whether or not they have a tag. Insurance companies might start to demand that vulnerable people are chipped.

The armed forces will discover that they are more useful than dog tags for identifying injured soldiers or for tracking troops who are lost or have been captured by the enemy. Prisons will soon come to the same conclusion. Then sweatshops in developing countries will begin to catch on. Already the overseers seek to control their workers to the second; determining when they clock on, when they visit the toilet, even the number of hand movements they perform. A chip makes all this easier. The workers will not be forced to have them, any more than they are forced to have sex with their bosses; but if they don’t accept the conditions, they don’t get the job. After that, it surely won’t be long before asylum seekers are confronted with a similar choice: you don’t have to accept an implant, but if you refuse, you can’t stay in the country.