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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:03 PM
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Disturbing photo of American woman with killed leopard
Photo at link. Killing endangered animales all while supporting a horrible dictator. Life doesn't get sweeter.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10841107/site/newsweek/
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:05 PM
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1. All of them are scum
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:06 PM
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2. What a bitch!
(c)
;)

I agreed with your first post, btw. I guess the rules are rules, though, eh.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:35 PM
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35. I would call her a
"Fucking asshole".

But I suppose 'Bitch' might suffice.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:07 PM
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3. CONSIDER THE SOURCE
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:17 PM by omega minimo
So now you know the C-word is unwelcome and found something else objectionable to share?


edit: oh so it's that SAME objectionable subject......................

Folks need a distraction from-- oh I dunno-- KING GEORGE AND HIS SUPREME GLOBAL COURT
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:09 PM
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5. I did? Please do tell. /nm
nm
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:10 PM
Original message
This was the gist of the original thread; c-word was a side issue.
I recommend the article he's referring to. Good stuff.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:10 PM
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9. what are you talking about?
:shrug:
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:11 PM
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10. This photo was posted in the OP's post that was locked
it was the point of the thread.

You know, I don't like that word either--however, I understood what the subject matter of the thread was.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:29 PM
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15. I Don't Understand Your Anger At The OP. It Seems He Posted Just Fine.
I think there are more than enough threads on * and Alito to keep us busy, I don't think this one will derail our focus :)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:42 PM
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20. Every one of your replies to my posts says "I don't understand"
Why bother
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:46 PM
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22. And Yet You Never Explain. Are You Just Angry For The Sake Of Being Angry?
Or do you have justification for your attack on the OP? That's all I was wondering, and I was polite about it.

And it appears I'm not the only one. It's not that much of a big deal, but your original reply to the OP did seem a bit attacking and angry without any context provided as to why. I don't think it is outside the realm of reasonable possibility that someone would wonder if there was anything behind it.

No need to be so attacking towards me, it was a fairly legitimate inquiry. Thanks. :hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:51 PM
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25. Just asking for the sake of asking?
This perpetual confusion makes it hard to take seriously

:hi:

as you know, that was observing, not "be so attacking towards me"
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:55 PM
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26. Rather Than Now Directing Bitterness Towards Someone Else, Can You Please
just answer the original question? If you can't based on it not having any justification, that's ok. We all have our moments of angry displays that later we realize were unwarranted. But if you do have a reason for initially being so angry towards the OP I was curious to hear it, cause it seemed out of context with the intent of this thread and couldn't help wondering why it caused you to post in such a manner.

Thanks! :hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:00 PM
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29. What part of "hard to take seriously" don't you understand?
:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl:

ok no more kicks for your lil buddy
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. You Have Some Real Issues. You Have Given Me Much More Of An
answer than you realize. Pretty sad outcome, actually.

See ya.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:28 PM
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33. You are not for real and have proven here why I never reply to your posts
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 10:33 PM by omega minimo


I leave you alone. Why don't you return the favor?
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. So why did you attack me?
?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:53 PM
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41. What Are You Talking About? How Do You Consider Your Attitude As
leaving me alone? I asked a simple question, but instead of answering it you decided to turn your bitterness towards me. Maybe if you learned to reply with a bit more tact, you wouldn't have to deal with outcomes such as this.

Obviously this is getting nowhere, nor does it appear you are going to answer the question anyway, so as far as I'm concerned this waste of time mini thread is done.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:45 PM
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21. I agree .....
100%.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. 100% H2O
Refreshing :spray:

:grouphug: Here's to the future :toast:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:52 AM
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63. As Yoko sang ....
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #63
68. Please, Yoko, don't sing...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:00 AM
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69. Sing, Yoko, sing!
Beats anger any day.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. Have you ever heard her sing?
It's painful.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:34 PM
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34. Ya aint alone at all.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:37 PM
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37. Agree with what? I'm lost here.
Please clue me in.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:08 PM
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4. Killing rare animals AND doing business with the Mugabe dictatorship.
Hard to get much lower than that.

I hope some of these assholes get prosecuted
under the laws mentioned in the article,
but I'll not hold my breath.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:09 PM
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6. What A Sick Fucking Psycho with BLOOD all Over Her!!......
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:11 PM by leftchick


The Fascist Pigs detroying nature need to be made into trophies themselves. :grr:

<snip>

She also knows how to use her power. About three years ago, Chiwenga won an auction for a coveted lease on a 220-square-mile tract of bush, owned by Zimbabwe’s Parks and Wildlife Authority, located just outside Hwange National Park in southwest Zimbabwe. Abounding in the Big Five—lion, elephant, Cape buffalo, leopard, and black rhino—Chiwenga’s property has since become a choice destination for professional hunters, particularly well-heeled Americans.

Now, Chiwenga’s business ambitions—as well as her political clout—have brought her to the attention of the U.S. government. Last November, the Treasury Department added Chiwenga, 50, to a list of 128 Mugabe relatives and cronies who are “undermining democratic processes or institutions in Zimbabwe.” The Treasury Department has blocked the assets of those on the list and established penalties of up to $250,000 and 10 years’ imprisonment for anyone who does business with them. And that executive order has put dozens, if not hundreds, of Americans who hunt on her land in legal jeopardy.

Chiwenga’s sanctioning by the U.S. government has drawn new attention to the unsavory, and usually hidden, links between American sportsmen and the Mugabe dictatorship. During the past six years, Zimbabwe’s economy has been in free fall, with the country’s gross domestic product dropping by half and agricultural production sinking by more than 80 percent. But hunting has remained one of the country’s few thriving industries, bringing in as much as $30 million annually, according to conservationists and professional hunters in Zimbabwe. Much of that cash has gone into the coffers of ZANU-PF insiders, who have gained control of government-owned safari land at below market prices, reportedly through rigged auctions in many cases. One of Chiwenga’s neighbors in the Victoria Falls area is Webster Shamu, Mugabe’s Minister of Policy Implementation, and a key architect of Operation Murambatsvina—“Clean out the Rubbish”—the brutal slum clearance program that has left some 700,000 poor black Zimbabweans homeless. (Shamu is among the original 77 insiders who had their assets frozen and were barred from entering the United States by the Treasury Department in 2003). Another big player is Jacob Mudenda, the former governor of Matabeleland North. All of them do a brisk business catering to professional American hunters, who make up about half of the clientele, according to industry insiders.

The Mugabe cronies-turned-safari operators are usually careful to conceal their direct involvement in the hunting business. Joyce Chiwenga, for example, seems to work through a network of agents that markets safaris heavily in the United States but never reveal the name of the property’s primary lease holder. Among them: Rob and Barry Style, owners of Buffalo Range Safaris, based in Harare. The Style brothers are regular participants at the Annual Hunters’ Convention scheduled for next week in Reno, Nevada,—a three-day marketing extravaganza sponsored by Safari Club International, America’s largest hunting club—and at other venues where American hunters congregate. Although Rob Style denied in an e-mail to NEWSWEEK that he had a business relationship with Chiwenga, several professional hunters in Zimbabwe insist that the brothers have frequently taken clients to shoot animals on her property. The Hunting Guide, an industry newsletter published in the United States, also names Buffalo Range Safaris as a hunting-safari operator on Chiwenga-owned land. Asked whether Safari Club International was concerned about the prospect of facilitating commercial links between American hunters and a sanctioned Zimbabwean figure, David Nagore, an SCI spokesman, says “On the advice of counsel, SCI has no comment on the matter.”

... I hate these MFers! :grr:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:11 PM
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11. I know. What is she going to do with that dead cat?
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:12 PM by lvx35
Eat it? This is a reason why I love the left; these assholes clearly have too much money, somebodies got to take it away and use it to help the kids in this country that need medical attention and healthy food.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:22 PM
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12. Too bad the cat couldn't wake in a last throes defense and
sever her jugular vain. Then I wouldn't feel so bad about seeing this story.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 04:32 AM
Response to Reply #6
56. all she needs is the thumbs up and she would look just like the
other girl.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:10 PM
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7. She is smiling. Is she human?
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:49 PM
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24. sidenote: love the toon! eom
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:09 PM
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30. I work for an outdoors magazine and we publish photos
of hunters with their kill and they are all smiling. I would love to wipe those smiles off their faces with a good slap.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:10 PM
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8. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:27 PM
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14. ...
:spank:


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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:22 PM
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13. This picture makes me sick...
what a psycho. What kind of pleasure could you possibly get off killing this beautiful animal?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:35 PM
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16. It gets worse.
Did you see the picture in the second page of the article?

Some loser posing next to a giraffe he must have shot. Shooting a predator is sick enough in and of itself, but just how twisted do you have to be to shoot a giraffe?
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. sick
they are sick, and evil.

Yeah, giraffes are really scary, aren't they? Must take a real American red blooded male to take down a leaf eater.

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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:37 PM
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17. An idiot killed a giraffe
on page 2. Look at this jerk. That must have been a tough hunt to kill a docile giant beauty as this. :mad:

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:39 PM
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19. That pic is horrible
Poor giraffe. :(
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #17
36. What a dirty horrible piece of filth!
I hate to say it but he's a DSF.

Ie. DO SOCIETY A FAVOR and ice his ass.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:06 PM
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42. I'm in tears. That's horrible.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #17
43. What a sick fuck
that is a heartbreaking photo
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
45. WTF???????? Look At The Pride On His Fat Fucking Face. What the hell is
wrong with these goddamn people????

Seriously, this is so sick, and even sicker upon viewing his "I'm a courageous hunter" look on his stupid friggin face. Truly disturbing.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #17
67. He may as well just go out to shoot a cow
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 09:50 AM by Godlesscommieprevert
Same difference. What a MAN :sarcasm:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:48 PM
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23. Sickening
one of the most ugly hateful things I have ever seen, she's inhuman that blood dripping down her and the big smirk on her face. :grr:
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:57 PM
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28. Times have changed since TR could score points bagging game in Africa!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:27 PM
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32. I swear I'm from a different species than these monstrous people. NT
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:43 PM
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38. what's more disturbing about this pic
is not the dead deer...


bear in mind this is an advertisment.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. Just look at that moronic woman and her child.
And then the gun, which is pointing towards the child. How stupid is that?
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 04:34 AM
Response to Reply #38
57. what they really want to do is stick a black person in the deers
place.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:45 PM
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39. I don't know how some people live with themselves
Most people manage to keep the brutaility towards animals thier lifestyle encourages at arm's reach. They keep doing what they want and maintain thier self-respect through denial.

How somebody can see the death of such a beautiful animal up close, as a result of thier own actions and for no good reason and look at themselves in the mirror the next morning without an intense feeling of loathing I have no idea.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:10 PM
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44. What an awful person. Unimaginable. n/t
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:27 PM
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46. And people wonder...
...why I have the board name I chose...

Killing for necessity is one thing. Killing for pleasure is something entirely different.
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:47 PM
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48. Yeah, its not that hard for 5 or 6 people with SKS's and AK's to kill
an animal. I really don't see where the attraction is.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:20 AM
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49. Hey, Lady...you screwed up your shirt...
Well, there's $120 at some London Outfitter, shot down the crapper. Buy another one with the next tax cut Il Douche is gonna give ya...

Wonder if that was a "Canned" hunt? That would be BEYOND disgusting.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:59 AM
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50. Both of these photos
are disgusting. I think the pic of that bastard with the giraffe is probably the worst one. How much of a challenge was it to kill that beautiful animal.

Damn these people!!! I hope they wind up in a special section of Hell!!!





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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 01:10 AM
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51. How can anyone smile after killing such a beautiful animal n/t
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 01:12 AM
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52. Oh, oh BUT WAIT!!!
A horrible dictator...then Bush Inc must bring freedom and democracy and oust the evil dictator!!! YEAH!!! FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!! :woohoo:

Now don't even tell me Iraq wasn't based on oil. Bush Inc...what bastards.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 01:34 AM
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53. Last week I watched a female model shoot a zebra on sports TV
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 01:38 AM by Neil Lisst
I don't know the show or the woman, as I stumbled upon it while channel surfing. I believe the only way to monitor society is to watch and read some of everything.

It was a Sunday morning, and they had some very attractive 35ish blonde obviously in Africa, talking about going on a hunt. She had a .270 rifle, it appeared, or maybe larger, with a scope. I thought maybe she would be hunting some big game.

But when the hunt came, it was a zebra. She picked out the alpha male, the leader of a family of horses, and killed him while he stood there grazing, oblivious to the danger.

She was ecstatic. She went to stand by her dead trophy kill, and after gloating about the kill said "I love these animals!"

Now, I'm not a peta person (sorry), but I love animals, horses in particular. To know them, to work with them, to understand them - is to love them. I arrived at a point in my life where I could no longer own one, simply because keeping a horse in a stall - or anywhere they can't run free - is wrong for me.

I'm reminded of a song some of us remember.


How can people be so heartless?
How can people be so cruel?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 03:41 AM
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54. What effing, low-life scumbags.
:grr:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 04:15 AM
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55. A symptom of what ills the planet
Sad, really.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 04:57 AM
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58. Where???
Freakish. Black-booted. Unnatural. Where are these people coming from? They seem to be everywhere these days.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:18 AM
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59. Anyone have a contact for that chick with penis envy?
And that other fucker with the dead giraffe? I am so mad now my hands are shaking but I would love to send them some of my "feelings".
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:21 AM
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60. Here is the fucking company. Anyone know how to kill a website?
http://buffalorangesafaris.com/



It was right under the "woman's" picture.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:32 AM
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61. One of the few times in my life I wish there was a higher power;
And an afterlife to address wrongs such as this!
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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #61
66. My sentiments exactly!

Karma would be nice too.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:49 AM
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62. Think this is disgusting? Check out the hunter's gallery....
http://buffalorangesafaris.com/Gallery03.htm
This was printed under her picture.
Mark's 4th Leopard with BRS
August 2003
4th Safari with BRS

and check out this guy....



28th Elephant
October 2004
12th Safari with BRS

http://buffalorangesafaris.com/Gallery01.htm

Boy, those are photos they should feel proud to show their grandchildren!
:sarcasm:
These are disturbed people, IMO.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:53 AM
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64. Mugabe was a willing tool
of the Brits and Americans - leopards do not change their spots.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:12 AM
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65. Safari Club International is disturbing and members' names are familiar
Just Google: George H.W. Bush or Dick Cheney and Safari Club International.

Disgusting!
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