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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:06 PM
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Another defiant soldier, this one serving time already.
This guy is a real hero IMO. He claims he was ordered to shoot innocent kids in Iraq.


There's little doubt that Fort Lewis Army officer Ehren Watada, if he continues to refuse deployment to Iraq, is headed for an Army stockade. At a Wednesday, June 7, press conference, Watada, a first lieutenant with the Stryker Brigade, said he believes the war is morally wrong but has chosen not to seek conscientious-objector status. He joined the Army a few months after the U.S. invaded Iraq, but now he contends the war is illegal, based on the Bush government's "deception . . . manipulation misconduct," which emerged later. That makes the order to send him to fight the war illegal, too, he argues. It's a contention, however, he'll unlikely be able to prove to a military court.

Watada, 28, first will have to demonstrate that the war, sanctioned by Congress and U.S. coalition partners, violates federal or military law. Should he somehow surmount that legal mountain, he must separately prove his deployment this month is itself illegal. He likely knows his fate—this is more protest than legal challenge—and he's drawn the admiration of the antiwar movement, along with the wrath of some military families. He also might be quietly cheered on by some fellow soldiers but despised by others who, on the ground in Iraq, see it not as a war of good or bad or lawfulness but of survival, one where their main mission is to watch each other's back. Watada believes, however, "I best serve my soldiers by speaking out.".....

The similar case of Sgt. Kevin Benderman may be a good indicator of Watada's future. Though it's not widely known, Benderman, of the 4th Infantry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas, is already in the Fort Lewis stockade for refusing to deploy to Iraq. A 10-year Army veteran, Benderman actually did a tour there, from the time of the March invasion through September in 2003. After shipping home, he changed his views, remembering such incidents as, he claimed, a commander ordering his unit to shoot Iraqi children if they tossed pebbles again at U.S. soldiers.acing redeployment to Iraq in 2004, he filed for conscientious-objector status. Unlike Watada, who is taking a legal stand, Benderman sought exception on moral grounds. But Army command refused even to accept his filing, Benderman contends. He was convicted last year of "missing movement"—refusing deployment—and was given 15 months in prison, loss of pay, reduction in rank, and, when he's released perhaps late this year, a dishonorable discharge. He is appealing.

Benderman, 41, frequently writes letters from the stockade that are published on the Web (www.bendermantimeline.com). He originally referred to himself as a conscientious objector and later added "prisoner of conscience." In one of his first messages, he wrote, "I have laid down my weapons of war to pick them up never again. It is my sincere hope that more people will do the same so that our children and grandchildren will never have to experience what so many of us already have—the single most barbaric of human endeavors, otherwise known as war." More recently, he expanded on his moral views: "We cannot expect government to do what is necessary to eliminate war because it generates large amounts of revenue for government. Governments and businesses are able to make record profits from war while the average citizen fighting in any given war cannot get proper treatment for their wounds or the mental and emotional anguish suffered as a result of their participation in war. How is this honorable?"
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http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0624/objector.php
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:31 PM
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1. Kevin & Monica have been through hell.
They made sure Kevin really took it in the shorts, the DD is beyond outrageous, a Convenience of the Government GD perhaps, but not a Dishonorable.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:35 PM
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2. I'm a veteran and was stunned to see Kevin got a DD.
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 03:38 PM by happydreams
This is way to harsh. I wonder if there were others in his outfit who could verify his claims.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:38 PM
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4. The commander who gave that order
Should be in the stockade
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:47 PM
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6. No kidding. This case needs to be investigated. I'm going to fire
a copy of this off to McDermott's office.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:44 PM
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5. In Kevin's case, the judge threw out other charges. I read that 15 months
for missing movement is very severe.

I think he is a real hero and I hope one day when this war is over that people like Kevin will be recognized as having done the right thing when given orders that are illegal ~

He has been treated very badly by the military. He still has not had his CO status filing addressed and was turned down for parole.

He really needs support right now as does his wife, Monica ~ it's been almost a year since his trial.

I believe he gets letters which can be sent through his website ~

I don't understand how the military can ask soldiers to abide by the rules when they themselves do not, as in Kevin's case.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:49 PM
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7. Missing movement generally gets about a year if it is a refusal to deploy
to a combat zone. If he just got drunk and missed the ship, that is different.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 04:00 PM
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9. Thank you ~ are you a veteran? I don't understand why they would not
at least give him a hearing on his application for CO status ~
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 04:16 PM
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11. They arent entertaining CO applications since
this is an all volunteer force.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:37 PM
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3. This is an example of refusing to follow an unlawful order
terrible
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:55 PM
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8. Yes, and Amnesty International has taken up his case and agrees with you.


Amnesty International Issues Update on its Declaration of Kevin Benderman as a "Prisoner of Conscience," Continues International Campaign of Support

Note: Below is the text of the Amnesty International (AI) update on May 23, 2006.

PUBLIC AI Index: AMR 51/083/2006
23 May 2006

Further Information on UA 208/05 (AMR 51/123/2005, 09 August 2005) and follow-up (AMR 51/137/2005, 05 September 2005) – Prisoner of conscience

USA Kevin Benderman (m)

Kevin Benderman, imprisoned solely for his conscientious objection to the war in Iraq, is now known to have had his request for parole denied on 30 March. Amnesty International considers him a prisoner of conscience.

The parole board denied his request on the grounds that he had not been sufficiently rehabilitated, he had not served enough of his punitive sentence and he had not adjusted to prison life. Kevin Benderman has now served 11 months of a 15-month sentence. He is held in Fort Lewis, Washington State, 3,000 miles from his family. He has appealed against the parole board’s decision.

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Kevin Benderman had served as an army mechanic for 10 years when he developed moral and religious objections to the war in Iraq, after serving there in 2003, and refused to deploy again. After seeing scenes of devastation in Iraq, and through his readings of both the Bible and the Qu’ran, he filed an application for conscientious objector status in December 2004. His application was turned down in April 2005 and he was court-martialled and sentenced to 15 months’ imprisonment. Amnesty International considers his objection to the war to be genuine and credible, and also that he took reasonable steps to secure release from his military obligations, and therefore considers him a prisoner of conscience.


http://www.topia.net/kbamnestyinternational3.html






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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 04:14 PM
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10. Thanks for this. It seems that Kevin simply refused to murder
kids. Maybe the obsession with keeping him under wraps is to hide another Haditha???
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:09 PM
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12. I hope more and more of these guys and gals
refuse to fight this evil war for the evil men running this nation.

There are no words that can express my disgust for a people who inflict harm on another people's children solely for financial and political gain. No words.

Bush? Cheney? Rumsfield? How the hell do you guys sleep at night? How? How does someone become that bloodthirsty and gluttonous? How in the fuck do you people look at yourselves in the mirror, knowing that because of you, babies are having the flesh ripped off their bodies? Soldiers are dying without proper equipment, but YOUR GODDAMNED BANK ACCOUNTS ARE FULL! Yeah!!!!!!!What in the FUCK happened to you people to make you so sick?

This is 2006, yet our nation is being run by a goddamned Atilla the Hun. We have absolutely NO right to EVER make fun of another nation too blind to get rid of it's ignorant, superstitious, Neandertal-brained, fucked-up, greedy, messiah-complexed warmongers. We are what we always made fun of.

Because of the NeoCon, our nation is a goddamned laughing stock of the world. We stand for nothing. Absolutely nothing but avarice and violence.









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