Troops echo frustration over war in Iraq

[johnnie]

"JOHNSTOWN, Pa. - While Staff Sgt. Randy Myers was dodging roadside bombs in
Iraq, his congressman was calling the war a lost cause.

Sixteen-term Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), a decorated Vietnam veteran and military hawk, has become the face of the Democrats' anti-war movement since he called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops last fall. His oft-repeated criticism of the Bush administration's war policies also has earned him the wrath of Republicans.

In Murtha's southwest Pennsylvania district, however, many share the war critic's views.

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"I'm not sure we're doing a whole lot of good," Myers, 46, said of the U.S. presence in Iraq. "Everybody thinks we are. We're trying to, but we're not going to change what they want to do, and if they don't want to change, they're not gonna."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060621/ap_on_go_co/murtha_hometown_troops_2



How long before the neocons/bush-heads start telling the troops they don't support the troops? :shrug:

I thought this was a pretty interesting article to be placed right up front of the news stories.

[Kagemusha]

1. Well this title is 10x better than the other one.

The other title made it seem the troops echoed frustration over MURTHA.

[johnnie]

2. Oh? This was posted?

I looked, but didn't see it.

[Kagemusha]

6. Because it's 'troops echo frustration with war critic'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2348351

See? The impression is like 180 degrees different.

[KharmaTrain]

3. People In This Country Are Bloodthirsty

I saw a chat the other day where most the people were jumping up and down about how we need to get retribution for the death of our two soldiers. One...Jewish no less...argued that for every one of our people killed, we should kill 25 of theirs. I asked her if she had ever heard of the holocoust...and shame on her for thinking like the Nazis did. She claimed that this is different. Of course she couldn't explain that to me...except to keep saying 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. I then asked how did that really effect her life? How did 19 guys who weren't even Iraqis directly threaten her life? Was her house the next one they would fly a plane into? Or that Saddam has some real WMD? It all boiled down to her hatred of Arabs...and a bunch of Faux Noise talking points. I used to try to debate these people...no more. I just called her immoral, as I do to anyone who admits in supporting this war and the booosh regime.

[johnnie]

4. Unfortunately

I think her figures are pretty close 1/25. The thing is, it shouldn't be one to anything. We need to start bringing them home now.

[KharmaTrain]

8. People Just Aren't Feeling It Yet

I see a lot of people who want to ignore and avoid discussing Iraq. They use the "let's not talk politics" blanket on it cause as long as they can go about their lives by watching American Idol and only worrying about which bar to go to this weekend, they don't want to deal with what they don't see/hear. What they do hear is so shrill...from both sides...they now defer to the "powers that be" and bleet along their merry way. Our country has been so numbed and divided, it's created a malaise that enabled booosh to break laws and push this war for profit with little to no real outrage.

Sadly I don't see the tide turning as many still don't feel the effects of this war for profit other than to bitch about $3 a gallon gas and they can't connect the dots. I asked a few "intelligent" types what their feelings were about the contractor/mercenaries who are in Iraq? You could hear the crickets chirp. Ignorance is bliss, unforunately.

[kittenpants]

5. Why doesn't that young soldier 'sa-port the troops'?!

He must be one of those self-hating liberals I keep hearing about.:)

[peacebaby3]

7. Trust me...there are a lot of those "self-hating troops" out there! My

husband and a lot of his fellow soldiers must all hate themselves and each other because they say the exact same thing. Most military people, particularly enlisted, are very a-political for the most part. They really have to be because they are never going to agree with their leadership 100% and they have ZERO say in policy and what they are asked to do, but most do see the reality on the ground and they are not stupid. Even some of the * supporters we know in the military are realistic enough to know that there is nothing left to "win." You will always have the completely brainwashed, gung-ho idiot, but they aren't the majority especially once you start dealing with members of the Reserve and National Guard.