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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:25 PM
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China, Russia reject N Korea resolution
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/China-Russia-reject-N-Korea-resolution/2006/07/11/1152383715975.html

China, backed by Russia, has submitted its own draft UN Security Council statement on North Korea, fearing a resolution imposing sanctions might be used to lay the groundwork for future military action.

But the United States, Britain and Japan opposed the statement as the security council put off action to allow a high-level Chinese delegation to talk to Pyongyang.

China's UN ambassador Wang Guangya told reporters after another round of council consultations that a resolution branding North Korea a threat to international peace and security "could be used by member states to take actions which could make the situation even worse".

Asked if he meant military action, Wang said "certainly."

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:50 PM
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1. I think China has NK distracting Bush.
They are disrupting the neocon gameplan in the ME. Hard to market an Iranian nuclear threat that's decades away while a real unstable regime is lighting off nuke capable missles that could potentially reach Alaska. The fact that Japan is nervous is forcing Washington to pay attention. Of course, China doesn't have a whole lotta love for Japan, either.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:00 PM
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3. Exactly, the great game falls apart
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 10:01 PM by teryang
The bushista regime has overplayed their hand, big time. In defense economics 101, its called resource allocation.

Bush says he honors the war dead by staying the course. Any Pentagon planner can tell you that would get you an F at the War College. Cost benefit analysis rules. Lots of costs, no benefits? Cut your losses. It isn't cut and run. It's stay and lose. What is the opportunity cost of fighting a battle you cannot win? What is the cost of engaging in an additional conflict that you would almost certainly lose because you are tied down in the first?

All of this was completely predictable before April 2003.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:07 PM
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4. We are down $500BB in the Iraqi fiasco.
Bases are having their power and water turned off because they can't pay the bills. Where are we going to find the money to pay for the Grand Delusion?

When these crooks leave office, the bills are going to be tallied and the American people will be truely stunned on what this administration has done to destroy our economic security. And Cheney is getting rich from sellingthis country short. Treasonous bastards, all.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:41 PM
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7. Well you are correct in the first part of your thesis.
China is playing a game here that keeps us off balanced. However NK is not exactly unstable and its taepaedong-2 missile is not nuke capable nor do the North Koreans have a known capacity to build either a nuke capable missile that can reach Alaska nor a nuclear device small enough to fit in such a missile. Japan, on the other hand is playing another game, using the manufactured crisis to end its 60 year constitutionally ordained military restrictions. Ah the world just gets safer by the day under the Bush Cabal.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:07 PM
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8. Good points, it's also dump on Pakistan time
...as the alliances in Asia firm up for the possibility of expanding warfare on the Asian landmass.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:52 PM
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2. "Courting Doom" Paul Craig Roberts
Whack North Korea, Before It Can Protect Itself?
Courting Doom
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

www.counterpunch.org


<Gentle reader, consider what it means when our government believes other countries have no right to their own interests unless they coincide with US interests. It means that we are the tyrant country. We cannot be the tyrant country without being perceived as the tyrant country. Consequently, the rest of the world unites against us.

How is the US, which has spent three years proving that it cannot successfully occupy Iraq, a small country of only 25 million people, going to control India, China, Russia, Europe, Africa and South America?

It's not going to happen.

What it does mean is that the US government in its hubris and delusion is going to continue starting wars and attacking other countries until a coalition of greater forces smashes us. Even among our European allies we are already perceived as the greatest threat to world peace and stability.>
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:10 PM
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5. One day they'll have a "T" bill auction and someone will ask...
"where's China?" The idjits that support this administration think that there are no ecomnomic consequences..."tax cuts and war, cool." They are clueless as to how this is going to go down.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:40 PM
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6. July 4, missile launches were timed for July 5 ultimatum to Iran
Which was postponed by the US. How effective, an ultimatum which is postponed.

The media tried to spin this as N.Korean effort to steal the space shuttle thunder. How ridiculous! How could they know that the shuttle flight would be postponed? They planned the launches based upon US threats to Iran. It is obvious that the Chinese would go along. Why shouldn't they?

Now the US is trying to "force" the Chinese to "force" the N.Koreans to drop this program which is working very well for them. It's the age old, who controls the peninsula game, us or them? One could say that nothing has changed, except that our loss of influence there is accelerating due to our stupid military campaigns.

For similar reasons, as you point out, wasteful war expenditures, accelerate our loss of economic leadership.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:17 PM
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9. You don't think Bush's little Iraq stunt had anything to do with this?
Naw, Bush wouldn't get the UN to pass a resolution against North Korea, then turn around a year later and claim that resolution gives him the right to take military action. He wouldn't do something like that, would he?
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