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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:53 PM
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NASA's Hansen on Gore: US came close to having the leadership it needed
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 02:54 PM by BurtWorm
to deal with the environmental devastation suddenly front and center in the public consciousness. Hansen is the scientist who was muzzled by the GOP crony who wanted NASA to put a "skeptical" spin on global warming. His review of Gore's book and movie, and two other books on global warming, begins with an unusual little paragraph:

Jim Hansen is Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Adjunct Professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences at Columbia University's Earth Institute. His opinions are expressed here, he writes, "as personal views under the protection of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution."


http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19131


Do we have politicians with the courage to explain to the public what is needed? Or may it be that such people are not electable, in view of the obstacles presented by television, campaign financing, and the opposition of energy companies and other special interests? That brings me to Al Gore's book and movie of the same name: An Inconvenient Truth. Both are unconventional, based on a "slide show" that Gore has given more than one thousand times. They are filled with pictures—stunning illustrations, maps, graphs, brief explanations, and stories about people who have important parts in the global warming story or in Al Gore's life. The movie seems to me powerful and the book complements it, adding useful explanations. It is hard to predict how this unusual presentation will be received by the public; but Gore has put together a coherent account of a complex topic that Americans desperately need to understand. The story is scientifically accurate and yet should be understandable to the public, a public that is less and less drawn to science.

The reader might assume that I have long been close to Gore, since I testified before his Senate committee in 1989 and participated in scientific "roundtable" discussions in his Senate office. In fact, Gore was displeased when I declined to provide him with images of increasing drought generated by a computer model of climate change. (I didn't trust the model's estimates of precipitation.) After Clinton and Gore were elected, I declined a suggestion from the White House to write a rebuttal to a New York Times Op-Ed article that played down global warming and criticized the Vice President. I did not hear from Gore for more than a decade, until January of this year, when he asked me to critically assess his slide show. When we met, he said that he "wanted to apologize," but, without letting him explain what he was apologizing for, I said, "Your insight was better than mine."

Indeed, Gore was prescient. For decades he has maintained that the Earth was teetering in the balance, even when doing so subjected him to ridicule from other politicians and cost him votes. By telling the story of climate change with striking clarity in both his book and movie, Al Gore may have done for global warming what Silent Spring did for pesticides. He will be attacked, but the public will have the information needed to distinguish our long-term well-being from short-term special interests.

An Inconvenient Truth is about Gore himself as well as global warming. It shows the man that I met in the 1980s at scientific roundtable discussions, passionate and knowledgeable, true to the message he has delivered for years. It makes one wonder whether the American public has not been deceived by the distorted images of him that have been presented by the press and television. Perhaps the country came close to having the leadership it needed to deal with a grave threat to the planet, but did not realize it.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:56 PM
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1. Move this one to the greatest page. Nominated!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:58 PM
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2. K&R
:kick:
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:02 PM
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3. kick
run Al run.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:03 PM
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4. I was lucky enough to see Jim Hansen and Al Gore participating in a "town
hall" panel discussion here in NYC a little while back. Hansen is amazing.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:07 PM
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5. I'm still hopeful for Gore leadership in 08
sign here

www.draftgore.com
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:25 PM
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15. I love the idea too, but I think Gore has found true happiness on his
lecture tour spreading the truth about global warming. Politics is so ugly by comparison.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 05:51 PM
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21. You know as much as I like Gore and wish him well...
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 05:55 PM by nam78_two
I am not thinking about his happiness at this point ;).

This country desperately needs someone who would take environmental stewardship, diplomacy etc. seriously.

Personally I think Gore would be the very best possible option for America and the world at this point in time and I am selfish enough not to mind one whit if that inconveniences him :P.
We need him!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:18 PM
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25. I agree we need him. But perhaps, if we elect someone like Feingold,
Gore could be just about as effective speaking out from the private sector. Or perhaps a Feingold could give Gore a cabinet post with a lot of media attention.

I guess I just like Al Gore so much that I do place his happiness above mine for now.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:09 PM
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32. God -- I love your rationale -- why don't you send that to him
and add, "Al, I am not asking you to run for YOUR benefit. I am not asking you to run for MY benefit. I am begging you to run for the sake of the generations after us, such as your and my grandchildren, so that they might walk on the earth and breath the clean air with the same opportunity to do so as their ancestors had. Do it for them, Al."

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:07 PM
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6. The selection of 2000 may have been our worst disasters
K&R
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:24 PM
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14. After seeing "An Inconvenient Truth" yesterday, I think you're right - it
ranks up there with the JFK assassination.

Gore would have been a fantastic President - he's still mine.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:12 PM
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7. This is a K&R...
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:14 PM
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8. Thank you for posting!
"It makes one wonder whether the American public has not been deceived by the distorted images of him that have been presented by the press and television."

Distorted - that is the right word for what the media did. Gore has always been himself, but the images had been bent, twisted, shaded, distorted.

This overdue recognition for Gore now always makes me a little teary-eyed.

Run, Big Al, Run!

---
tcb
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HeardOnTheHill Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:23 PM
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9. Found his voice
Having grown up in Tennessee, I've always followed Gore, and I'm thrilled that he seems to have truly found his voice in such an important issue.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:49 PM
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10. Welcome to DU, HeardOnTheHill ! ;-) (n/t)
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HeardOnTheHill Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:51 PM
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11. Thanks! Glad to be here! n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:56 PM
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12. ARGH! "Not a dime's worth of difference........."
:banghead: :argh:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:26 PM
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16. Doesn't it make you wonder how many of the "Gore 2008" people....
...were for Nader in 2000?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:31 PM
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18. I honestly would not want to alienate any Gore 2008 people
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 04:32 PM by BurtWorm
no matter whom they voted for in 2000. It seems counterproductive to me.

PS: Yet I fully understand why that question is interesting--the way a train wreck is interesting...
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 06:00 PM
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22. If they're for a Dem in 2008, I'm happy
Definitely with you there.

You're right about the perverse train-wreck fascination value, though...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 01:39 AM
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26. Would that be defined as Irony?
:shrug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:36 PM
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31. I just want St Ralph to come out and tell us all how much "there isn't a
dime's worth of difference between Bush and Gore" now! Come on St Ralph! I dare ya! :grr:
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:01 PM
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13. Wow! Wowie Wow Wow!
The perfect endorsement!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:30 PM
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17. Of COURSE the public has been deceived by the GOP controlled media and
they will tear down every Dem who speaks the truth about the GOP agenda.

But it is also disgusting to me that Bill Clinton kept Al Gore from making his presentation on global warming during the eight years he had. Clinton HAD to know the seriousness of the problem and he HAD to know about Gore's work - why did he muzzle Gore?
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:53 PM
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19. K&R n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 05:20 PM
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20. "US came close..." and it's still not too late.
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 05:21 PM by Kurovski
I hope Gore at least gives it a try.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 07:23 PM
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23. The country realized, but fiends twarted it - stole our future
I hare it when people refuse to acknowledge that the country elected Gore.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 07:43 PM
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24. Me too. Welcome to DU. Great article, K & R nt
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 01:43 AM
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27. Dr. Hansen has a lot of respect for Al Gore. Anyone who has seen the
exchange between the two of them in "An Inconvenient Truth" with Al Gore (then in Congress) grilling away at Dr. Hansen on his testimony where he accuses Dr. Hansen of having "edited" and contradicting his prior statements re. global warming.

My guess is from everything I have learned about Dr. James Hansen, that he is an honorable man and scientist who has seen his share of politicians whose interests trump those of science and the people and he learned that Al Gore is not one of them and is also a man of integrity and who respects science.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:21 AM
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28. Hansen was also interviewed during Brokaw's show on global warming
....it's good to see his voice is being heard.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:28 AM
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29. Thanks for posting n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 05:29 PM
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30. Kick,
to give this one more go-round.
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