OMG!: Records being monitored (even after Congress KILLED program)

[originalpckelly]

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2006-07-19-data-mining_x.htm

"WASHINGTON — U.S. intelligence agencies have invested millions of dollars since 9/11 on computer programs that search through financial, communications, travel and other personal records of people in the USA and around the world for connections to terrorism, according to public records and security experts.

The software is designed to find links between terrorism suspects and previously unknown people; track the international flow of money, operatives and materials; and search for clues in the worldwide communications over phone lines, wireless connections and Internet links.

Industry officials, government reports and contracting records do not say specifically how much the CIA and Pentagon have spent to develop, purchase and upgrade such data-mining programs, because that information is classified.

At least five of the data-mining programs were developed under a Pentagon program, called Total Information Awareness (TIA), that Congress disbanded nearly three years ago because of concerns that it threatened personal privacy, according to government records and participants in the projects. "


DID YOU SEE THAT! This is a program Congress specifically KILLED, but they kept doing it ANYWAY! WTF?

[bluerum]

1. You seem genuinely surpirsed. How charming. nt

[originalpckelly]

2. I knew about TIA, but...

I am surprised that the Bush administration WOULD CONTINUE THE PROGRAMS EVEN AFTER CONGRESS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED THEM!!!

That is SCARY!

[The2ndWheel]

5. Why surprised?

This is the 21st century. It's the information age. Get used to it, because it's not going away when this administration does.

[Ian David]

7. Gonzales said the President couldn't be constrained by Congress...

and that was only a few days ago.

[originalpckelly]

10. And we know that the President himself...

approves these kind of actions. Scary! This is actually very scary. What else are they doing?

[underpants]

6. Congress? pffft those gnats? who cares about them WE ARE AT WAR!!

Cheney is known to have famously referred to the United States Congress as "gnats"

This whole thing was clearly TIA the whole time

I bought a hat from cafepress with this logo on it years ago

[originalpckelly]

8. The President lied to the American people...

he said that he WASN'T trolling through our personal lives! FUCKER COMPLETE FUCKER!

[kestrel91316]

31. Why would Bush stop just because Congress prohibited this???

You think he gives a rat's ass about what Congress thinks or does????

We live in a fascist dictatorship. Better get used to this sort of thing.

[Qutzupalotl]

46. Congress only stopped the funding, IIRC. n/t

[fasttense]

3. A rogue pResident and his spineless congress are soon parted. n/t

[originalpckelly]

4. AND BY THE WAY IT WAS REPUBLICANS...

WHO OUTLAWED IT!!!

[bullimiami]

9. to find links to terrorism.... yeah right.

bushco is not worried about terrorists. they are worried about losing power to us, their one real threat.

[sam sarrha]

22. Google :... Promis , it is a program that can track financial doings and

they can predict what is going on, like new products, research, mergers and things they can acquire 'Inside Information' to profit from thru stock market investments or manipulation of the materials revealed that will be needed.. to manipulate the price subversively for a little bit of profit from every thing that happens..then launder it into the party campaign..or whaterver the hell they are doing with it.. they can tell what a company is doing by reading each and every invoice any time they want.. few companies have good computer protections,.. there isn't anything safe from what these guys can do or find out..

it is said that they can tell when you punch your time card, when you get 8.432 gallons of 87 octane gas, a six pack of Keystone beer and a gallon of milk at the quick stop on the way home.. how fast you drove if you have On-Star, then you picked up 3 DVD's for the kids, a chick flick for the wife and a XXX DVD...'Gannon does DC'..

the bored guys at the monitor ....1,200 watt spike: he opened the the Garage door, 40watt's he turned on the hall light, 120 watts turned on the kitchen lights, 20watts, put the Beer and milk in the fridge.. 20 watts,forgot a beer, 80 watts turned on the tv, 20 watts turned on the DVD...

[originalpckelly]

26. We are living in a digital prison.(nt)

[coalition_unwilling]

45. Tune in, turn on and drop out (n/t)

[rman]

35. also google: Ptech

A small corporation that created what's basically the sequel to Promis. Financed by Saudis with financial links to terrorism. Its software is used by many US government agencies and large corporations.
They're now called www.goagile.com

[sam sarrha]

43. thank you, but i dont want to eat that cookie...

[Cobalt-60]

47. Me First!

In the classic film Spartacus, Charles Laughton asks villainous Laurence Oliver (playing Crassus, the richest man in Rome ) where his name is on the list of the disloyal he is told "First". What an honor it must be to at the top of our enemies' list.
While I'm not eloquent to be first, I'd like to think I could lay down a top 40 performance.
But how can I make the charts if they're not listening?
Hey, when this is all over and we're probing our version of the Stazi files, the person rated most disloyal by the pigtards should get a T-Shirt or something!

[sam sarrha]

11. like pitbulls, once the Fascists get their hooks in your ass they cant let

go...

:hurts:

[originalpckelly]

13. These people...

I just don't know how to feel anymore. All these surprises. Reminds me of what happened in Nazi Germany.

[magellan]

14. I know I shouldn't laugh, but that was funny (nt)

[sam sarrha]

25. it is true.. they are addicted to it.. it quickly becomes a fetish.. they

gotta have it, and ALL the time.. they are mentally ill.. just like that stupid midget that runs North Korea.. and that was a paraphrase from John Bolton.. the Stupid Midget comment is what caused North Korea to restart their Nuclear program again.. thank you John.

[magellan]

28. John Bolton - possessor of the scariest mustache in the world

...since Hitler. The parallels go further and are not unjustified, I think.

[originalpckelly]

12. I suppose this is the reason they are talking about Hezbollah today...

Think about it. Today they are talking about Hezbollah striking in the USA. Isn't that a little convenient? I think there is something to that notion of the manipulation of the media with terrorist threats.

[originalpckelly]

15. Keep this kicked or it will go down the memory hole...

:kick:

[kimpossible]

16. And they bury it on page 5A

This would be front page news, on my planet.
:argh:

[originalpckelly]

17. Well you know...

Hezbollah is going to strike us here in the USA, so we need to pay close attention to the war in Lebanon. Oh yeah, and forget about this "program."

[originalpckelly]

18. kick for liberty

:kick:

[originalpckelly]

21. it is so busy here with that war...

people have also forgotten about Iraq. sad indeed.

[kimpossible]

19. Link to the snazzier online version of the story

Here -

Feds sharpen secret tools for data mining

[originalpckelly]

20. Why is that link different? WTF USA TODAY?

I got that original page from the C-Span website.

I fixed the link to go to the better page. thanks :hi:

[kimpossible]

23. The original link was to the printer-friendly version

And I see that the regular version of the story has made it onto the USA Today main home page "Latest Headlines" list!

[originalpckelly]

24. Yeah...

I don't know why they did that at C-Span...weird.

[originalpckelly]

27. Now it is gone again.

SCARY! It is literally like a memory hole.

[sam sarrha]

29. data mining for fun and profit- how to get inside the stock market.. LINK>

google 'Promis' it was an early version of what they are doing now..

so how much money are the making and laundering into the party thought the senators wives charities by scamming the stock market with 'inside' data mined information.

[originalpckelly]

30. Me retarded...

forget post. :-)

[originalpckelly]

32. The kicker is that they [administration] say it is legal...

WOW! They are so disconnected from reality. This smells like Iran-Contra to me.

[originalpckelly]

33. Down the hole this went...no one is talking about it...

I am so tired of the MSM!

[mhatrw]

34. Why am I not surprised by this?

The only thing surprising about this is that USA Today finally wrote about it.

[originalpckelly]

36. I sent this story to Keith Olberman...maybe it will make the news?

I hope so because so far it has gone down the memory hole.

[Pachamama]

37. Does our Congress and the American people understand how serious this is?

We have an administration that is totally corrupt and out of control! They do as they please, have no regard for the Constitution or laws passed by Congress and do what ever they want! They don't care about American's rights or privacy and are violating those rights every which way imaginiable!

TIA never went away...it just went underground. Gawd only knows what else they are doing that we don't know about, but if our Media/Press doesn't do its job, and if our elected officials in Congress don't take back their Constitutional power and defend it and if Americans don't speak out, it will be too late and we will find much, much worse things than this being done to all of us because there won't be a Constitution anymore!

:scared:

[intheflow]

38. Who was that repuke Senator or Rep who was so PO'd at Bush recently?

Could this be what he was so PO'd about? There was a thread speculating what it was that made him so angry, but I can't find it now because I can't remember his name. But I remember he said that whatever it was that pissed him off was a slap in his Congressional face. It seems to me if Congress specifically killed a program and then learned it had still been going on in secret, this could be what made him so angry.

[originalpckelly]

39. Rep. Hoekstra! I bet you are right about that!

I just realized that. Good job putting the pieces together.

[caligirl]

40. Poindexter never stopped the evil he practices on Americans

Edited for bad memory.

[originalpckelly]

41. South Americans? (nt)

[caligirl]

42. I got Poindexter and Negroponte mixed up. Poindexter

was doing this stuff years ago. It was Negrponte who was the death squad guy in south america. My bad. good catch.

[leftyladyfrommo]

44. I have no privacy expectations any more.

I guess I used to have.

If I want something to remain confidential I go talk to that person in person.

I pay cash for anything that isn't simply ordinary.

[sofa king]

48. Capitol Hill Blue reported this in June, 2004.

When Doug Thompson wrote this article, he was airily dismissed as a crank. Nobody followed it up. Few bothered to note when the truth finally began seeping into the mainstream press, far too late for public outcry to overwhelm the election theft of 2004.