Bev Harris has NOT filed a tax return with the IRS

[Kelvin Mace]

Attention Mods: Since many people at DU gave money to Bev Harris and her BBV.org, her failure to file a tax return, in the face of claims by her that she did, is relevant to all DUers, thus it bears discussion outside the Election Forum.

Two DUers have now called the IRS, provided them with BBV's tax ID number, and been told that NO form 990 has been filed with them.

Bev assured people on her web site and in emails that she was complying with the law, yet we continue to learn that she has failed to do so for reasons unknown.

Here's what we know so far:

- Bev failed to pay payroll taxes in 2004

- Bev claimed that BBV's books were being managed by an accounting firm specializing in non-profits, yet the evidence suggests no accounting firm was involved with the books. Bev has refused to reveal the name of the accounting firm involved, and no accounting firm signed her 990.

- Bev's 990 was signed by one person, yet the signature was identified as being Bev's.

- Bev failed to register BBV with the state of Washington, thus she has been illegally soliciting funds in the state since 2004.

- Math errors and omissions are rampant in her 990 filing.

- Bev recently attacked VoteTrustUSA for accepting money from Donna Curling, the wife of ChoicePoint's CEO, claiming the money was tainted and should be returned. Bev also accepted money from Donna Curling, yet she has failed to return that donation or explain why she should be allowed to keep "tainted money".

- Bev claimed she donated her Qui Tam proceeds (minus $8,000 for her church) to BBV. Yet no such donation appears on her 990 ($68,000).

So, here are the questions that should be answered before anyone donates any further money or anyone should be allowed to plug Bev's organization with links or posts:

1) Why didn't she pay payroll taxes in 2004? Has she paid any in 2005? How much has she had to pay, or will she have to pay in penalties for her failure?

2) Who did the books for BBV? If an accounting firm, provide the name, if not, please explain why she claimed such a firm would handle the books, but in fact did not.

3) Why did Bev fail to register with the state of Washington as a non-profit? Are penalties being assessed and if so, how much?

4) Where is the $68,000 donation she claimed she made to BBV? Can she provide proof that she donated the money she promised to donate to her church? If she did not donate the money, how can she claim she didn't file a qui tam for personal profit?

5) Why did she keep Donna Curling's money, yet attack VoteTrustUSA for doing what she had done?

6) Why the discrepancy on the signature block of the 990?

7) Why are there math errors on the 990? Where are the missing schedules?

8) Does she feel she has been a responsible steward of the her contributors money? If so, why? If not, will she resign and turn the organization over to a more competent director? If she refuses to resign, will she refund a reasonable portion of her salary to atone for her mismanagement?

These questions must be answered. If Bev refuses to answer each and every one honestly and completely, then I propose that all direct links to BBV be banned from DU, since supporting an organization which mismanages money and misleads contributors is not something the DU community should allow to take place.

Please feel free to add any questions I may have missed.

[adarling]

1. great job Kelvin

that woman is a poison among the election reform groups and has hurt alot of people along the way. Such a disappointment, just goes to show you that we too have our nut jobs in the dem party.

[Lerkfish]

5. I'm no expert, but I don't believe she's actually a democrat

IIRC, some have said she made money selling purple heart bandaids against Kerry, and she spends a great deal of time at freeperville.

I never read of any claim by her to be a democrat....but I may have just missed it.

[Sydnie]

6. No band aids, Clinton Cigars.

Any sleazy thing she could do. This is just a continuation of that, IMHO. She should be exposed for the fraud that she is.

[adarling]

10. well then it makes me feel better to know that she isn't then

she is prob a DINO. This is the crap that will undermine everything we have tried to do.

[fooj]

12. "Bullshit Artist" for 1000, Alex.

Who is........

[formercia]

21. From what I remember

she claims to be a libertarian.

[Kelvin Mace]

23. Is it just me or has anyone else

noticed that folks who claim to be "Libertarians", uponm closer inspection ususally turn out to be NeoCons?

[formercia]

48. seems that way to me.

a political false-flag cover.

[eridani]

55. You're half right

Just leave off the "neo" in her case. I doubt she's given that much thought to either libertarian or neocon issues.

[Kelvin Mace]

22. No, she didn't sell purple band-aids

but she did peddle Monica cigars in 1998 and she does hang around FR.

[troubleinwinter]

31. She also offered assistance/advice to Rossi (R) in WA

[eridani]

56. Linkylinky?

The gubernatorial hand recount in the WA state was a model of transparency, complete with checks and balances. Except for the two all electronic counties which were not recounted.

[troubleinwinter]

60. Here is what I have.

I cannot g over to FR to find it for a link... FR makes me bulemic.



DUmmie FUnnies 06-07-05 ("I Believe" ...AGAIN!!!)
Posted by BevHarris to beckysueb

On Bloggers & Personal 06/08/2005 6:37:43 AM PDT · 144 of 172

As for Rossi, we did notify the Rossi team of the problems we were finding with the optical scan, showing how it could be easily fraudulently manipulated, and where to find the evidence. We were told that they were not allowed to present any new evidence by that point (we notified them as soon as we discovered the problem, and BEFORE we even went to Leon County to demonstrate proof of concept)

................................................................................

DUmmie FUnnies 06-07-05 ("I Believe" ...AGAIN!!!)
Posted by BevHarris to Purrcival
On Bloggers & Personal 06/07/2005 6:53:24 PM PDT · 102 of 172

Had the Rossi litigation team filed a request for the King County memory cards (we suggested strongly to the Rossi team that they avail themselves of this option), I believe the litigation would have come out differently(depending on what was found). The reason the judge tossed the case out was that he said they had not proved fraud.

[eridani]

62. I see. And Bev didn't once mention the Snohomish machines cheating--

--in favor of Rossi. (The subject of Land Shark's lawsuit.) Tsk, tsk.

She is of course right in pointing out that opscans can be hacked. However, if two machine counts and one hand count are within 0.01% of each other, that is ipso facto evidence that they weren't in this case. (You'd certainly expect that robbers would specifically avoid the mistake of robbing every house on a block, no?) Furthermore, the hand count added votes to the totals of all three candidates, which is what you'd expect due to the nature of opscan errors (central scanners slightly undercount for the same reason that computer printers occasionally pick up more than one sheet of paper.)

[fooj]

2. kandr!

[yowzayowzayowza]

19. K&R, but ....

I'd leave Donna Curling's activism and VoteTrustUSA's paltry $50k(?) budget out of it. Failing her fiduciary responsibilities to BBVz massive Randi Rhodes windfall is enuf. ...and w/o answers, banning site references does seem prudent.

[Kelvin Mace]

27. I see your point,

though her nasty attacks just set me off, especially when I learned she had gotten a donation as well.

Feel free to disregard that question then folks.

[troubleinwinter]

28. Both of you make good points.

IF we even take BBV's 'supposed' 990 as truthful at all (which we cannot), there is indication of two large donations (if we listen to Bev's claims), one donor of $30,000 and one of $20,000. That is TWO secret donors totalling the equivalent of VT's entire year.

What two donors gave Bev's org $50,000? She has never explained that, but spews accusations and throws rocks at dedicated activist organizations.

Bev Harris has many questions to answer.

Why was 990 not filed?
Why was 990 copy request not fully complied with?
Where is Schedule B?
Why were payroll taxes not filed or deposited for a year?
When were they finally paid?
What were the penalties for payroll tax late deposts and filing?
Why are donors paying IRS penalties?
Why was BBV not registered with WA State?
Who are the two donors of $50,000?
Why claim only $23,000 was raised via Randi, when it is proven false?
Where is the accounting of the 2004 FOIAs?
Why was 990 not prepared by a qualified CPA?
Why did you not sign the 990 yourself?
What is the explanation of $45,000 in printing and publishing expense?
Will we ever be provided answers?

That's a start.

[uppityperson]

3. good job

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. There seems to be a contradiction:

Two DUers have now called the IRS, provided them with BBV's tax ID number, and been told that NO form 990 has been filed with them.


- Bev's 990 was signed by one person, yet the signature was identified as being Bev's.

If no 900 was filed, how could the signature be identified?

[troubleinwinter]

7. The 'supposed' 990

is posted on BBV website. It was CLAIMED to have been filed 5/15, but IRS does not have it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. Thank you for clearing that up!

[Kelvin Mace]

24. I refer to the 990 she posted

on her web site and claimed had been filed with the IRS.

No contradiction.

[flyarm]

9. thank you Kelvin Mace...K&R...!!! n/t

[troubleinwinter]

11. Extensions

The 990 was due November 15, 2005. She CLAIMS to have filed for two three-month extensions (the maximum allowed), bringing due date to May 15, 2006.

Now I have to wonder if these extensions were ever filed at all.

Didn't register with Washington State, hasn't fully complied with a 990 copy request, didn't file payroll filing forms or deposit payroll taxes for an entire year, didn't file 990 with the IRS... hard to imagine she filed for extensions!

[benburch]

13. Will the IRS tell us if extensions had indeed been filed?

And what information has to be disclosed on that sort of extension?

[troubleinwinter]

14. The IRS form is here:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8868.pdf

Yes, I'm sure the IRS would answer that inquiry.

I see organizations post their extension forms (if any) along with their 990s, whether on Guidestar or their own sites.

[benburch]

15. I see what I need to see here...

1. Only the first extension is automatic.

2. BBV would have had to make financial representations to the IRS to obtain the extension.

3. Those representation would have been under penalty of perjury.

4. There is NO WAY that an accounting firm could have requested an extension without a BBV officer signing the form.

[troubleinwinter]

16. She said

that she "was surprised to find out that the accounting firm had filed for a six month extension". There is no such thing.

[benburch]

17. No there is not.

And she could not have been surprised by it. She would have had to SIGN it.

[troubleinwinter]

18. Even though the first extension is 'automatic',

the extension application form still has to be filed, on time.

[benburch]

20. Correct.

This reeks.

[Kelvin Mace]

25. Didn't she claim that her accounting firm

had filed for an extension and she was "surprised" to learn this?

Since the accounting firm doesn't seem to exist, weird she was surprised.

Here's a question for our IRS detectives: Is it possible to learn whether extensions have been filed for? If they have not, then Bev's entire story starts to unravel.

Edit: Oops, sorry! Some one already asked this.

[troubleinwinter]

26. "Is it possible to learn whether extensions have been filed for?" Yes.

Call [phone] and ask about Black Box Voting, Inc., Employer ID #20-1242136. It is public info.

[troubleinwinter]

82. Well, I'll be....

I called IRS. The extension was filed, bringing the due date to May 15th.

[flyingobject]

83. this is all so crazy

seems so bizarre.

I guess maybe someone at BBV.org will suddenly remember to file
their tax return after reading this.

But did they post the tax return (990) on the bbv.org correct?

[troubleinwinter]

93. well,

yah / no ??????

Part is there... no schedule B. What is there is full of errors. I can't see how it can be refered to as "the tax return", as it hasn't been filed, so who knows what to call it.

[Rex]

29. Oooohhh, I hope she gets soooo screwed over by the IRS!

Not something I'd wish on very many people!

[troubleinwinter]

30. The sad part is that it appears that the donors are the ones screwed over.

[MissWaverly]

33. and everybody that worked with her, thinking they were helping

fight against election fraud. She had a lot of dedicated helpers both paid and unpaid, and a
lot of us sacrificed to donate to her hoping that she would find the smoking gun in the 2004 election. I think the public has a right to know there are problems with her organization
before they donate. I mean, if there are IRS issues, the donors money can be seized for unpaid
taxes, etc. and will definitely not go for the purpose it was given.

[Kelvin Mace]

39. Bev's action have cost liberals WAY more than just the million

She has made people like Randi Rhodes unwilling to help solicit funds anymore.

[troubleinwinter]

41. Then 'Bev' wins.

[MissWaverly]

43. No, people want fair elections

People want what's right, they hate cheaters, and when they figure that
out about you, they leave you in the dust,

[MissWaverly]

42. yes, I agree

[Rex]

34. That is what happens when you trust people, I'm glad I didn't give her

a single penny. She had way too many 'visits' from the SS stories for me to believe her. I really do hope she gets treated like crap and maybe thrown in jail for tax evasion. She's done just as much damage here at DU as she has to BBV issues.

[EFerrari]

37. This is what happens when you trust grifters.

Don't let her ruin the community for you. Then the @ssholes win.

[troubleinwinter]

38. I sent another donation to a GOOD org day before yesterday.

One she delights in smearing. Her stink will NOTTTTTT be cast onto good orgs and stop me from giving to the organizations that truly do great work on our behalf.

Every org she smears will get a donation from me.

[EFerrari]

51. Ouch.

:)

[Rex]

44. Yeah and I did trust her at first.

I enjoy this site because of people like you sfexpat2000! :hi: Bev is a 'sellout' and will always be remembered as 'selling out' for money. Not something I would want to be remembered for.

[EFerrari]

49. Mutual and agreed!

:toast:

[Skidmore]

32. The real question is why this woman is not standing trial

for felonies.

[flyarm]

36. as little lord pissy pants would say..she is either with us or against us

if she is against us..she may have protection...

just guessing though..

fly

[Kelvin Mace]

40. Well, until some folks start asking questions

at an official level, we won't get answers.

[EFerrari]

35. I so agree. This woman is a known cheater and grifter.

Whatever she does with her hand, she erases with her elbow.

[BrotherBuzz]

45. You are the burr under her saddle blanket

You rock! :thumbsup:

[benburch]

46. There is a MUCH bigger burr coming.

MUCH, MUCH bigger.

[TorchTheWitch]

73. GOOD

I hope it provides that cheating stealing liar much bum pain... the wretched swine.

Thank God I never gave her so much as a dime... never trusted that crazy nut.

[Kelvin Mace]

47. TroubleinWinter did all the sluething

I just felt that the discussion belonged in GD.

[BrotherBuzz]

50. OK, TroubleinWinter is the burr....

nevertheless you are the pesky wrangler that placed the burr under the blanket. ;)

Kudos to all!

[benburch]

52. I think the horse is about to buck Harris off...

...if I were her, I would make sure that my passport was valid, and that I had a visa to someplace with weak extradition.

[greatauntoftriplets]

53. I am not surprised....

Ya know, if I didn't file a tax return, the IRS would be on my arse like a duck on a June bug. How long will she get away with this shite?

:evilfrown:

[benburch]

54. I have one possible reason she gets away with it...

...seems to me that if you are a deep cover agent for the GOP Crime Syndicate, you could get away with anything.

Just speculating here.

I wonder if she has Carl Rove on speed dial?

:evilgrin:

[fooj]

57. A blackberry, perhaps?

B-)

[benburch]

58. Perhaps!

You know she had all that trouble with her cellphone voice mail;

http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/bev_randi.mp3

[troubleinwinter]

59. A highly entertaining post on Free Republic by Bev Harris:

Free Republic

DUmmie FUnnies 05-17-05

Posted by BevHarris to franksolich

On Bloggers & Personal 05/19/2005 9:43:29 PM PDT ·

As for me getting rich off it, my annual salary is $60,000, no whistles, secret back doors, or gimmicks. My annual donations to Black Box Voting: $70,000, from a Qui Tam settlement just received, my donation checks to be posted online this month. Of the settlement, around $76,000, I have committed to tithe 10 percent to my church, something I do regularly because it is part of my belief system. The remaining amount I will donate into Black Box Voting, tagged as a restricted donation to be spent only on consumer protection litigation.

I have worked therefore full time for a year for (-$10,000). Any one at DU or anywhere else who wants to put in a matching offer, bring it on.

Cheers, and my best to you all.

Bev Harris
Executive Director
Black Box Voting, Inc.

"my donation checks to be posted online this month" in May 2005 never seems to have materialized.

[havocmom]

61. Always figured she was a freeper

The tax avoidance, money launering thing sounds like a GOP stunt

It ain't roses we smell

DU should prohibit links to her little scam.

[troubleinwinter]

63. Here's another (there are million of em)

DUmmie FUnnies 05-17-05

Posted by BevHarris to MisterRepublican

On Bloggers & Personal 05/19/2005 11:13:53 PM PDT · 2,844 of 4,575

(question)Hmm. I can't resist. Perhaps you can name the board members?

Start by Googling Jim March, the Republican gun lobbyist who is one of the most active members of our board of directors. He was my co-plaintiff in the lawsuit against Diebold that resulted in a $2.6 million payment by Diebold to the state of California and Alameda County, to reimburse for selling flawed voting machines.

I'm guessing you don't know the names of the seven board members, nor of the three full time staffers, and if you can correctly identify the political persuasion of each, I'll send you that Broward County Ballot Box that no one could claim when I offered the last challenge.

But this thread is about something else, and I'm done shifting its gears -- probably boring the SOX (no pun intended, Diebold :) ) off of everyone.

Next, for those uninitiated to Internet lynching, you can expect to see a horde of displaced DUers coming over here posting breathless links and unfounded allegations. They'll outnumber anything I've posted by at least 50:1, since I won't be near the Internet until Monday afternoon, plenty of time to unleash the attack dogs.

Bye, nice playing, and yes -- the nicknames (and especially the "Sleepless and Skedaddle" pun) made me laugh. The whole office erupted, in fact, and for 15 minutes were unable to discipline ourselves to stop reading this stuff.

Back to your truth-seeking.

[EFerrari]

64. "Back to your truth-seeking"

No one could do a better job of outting this grifter than she does, herself.

[mom cat]

80. All of this and Bev is a f'ing freeper!

:puke:

[fooj]

86. Is there a 12 step program for perpetual victims?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mom cat]

87. I think that it would self destruct ... but the fireworks would be

entertaining for the firsr few minutes. :nuke:

[Kelvin Mace]

89. Well, she was cozy with them

and seemed to egg them on to attack Andy.

and if you have doubts, check out this post, her own site, her own words (post is from our achives, since she scrubbed it from her).

http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/bushbought.htm

"Please do not bash 'freepers' -- here's why"

that is a term that comes from Free Republic, a political forum. Free Republic has had some outstanding discussions on voting machine integrity in the past. I have gotten some good consultation from "freepers."

We are nonpartisan. Everyone who's not a criminal wants clean elections. One of our board members, Jim March, has done some fantastic work on this issue, and I guess you'd describe him as a "freeper" -- he's a gun lobbyist who supports George Bush.

You may be very surprised at who's in our corner on this issue. In fact, George Bush ordered my book, had it overnighted.

Thanks.

Bev

[fooj]

67. "Bring it on"

Where have we heard THAT before?:think:

[Kelvin Mace]

88. I bet her church didn't see a nickel either

[Generic Other]

65. Someone needs to make a movie of this woman's life!

I'm thinking Kathy Bates could play the villainess if she put on a few pounds. The plot movement a tight domino effect of people used, cast aside, ripped off so that one woman could rise to the top. Her meteoric rise and her equally spectacular crash and burn. Maybe a final scene at the women's state penitentiary.

[Stephanie]

66. Kathy Bates is too pretty

[troubleinwinter]

68. Bev Harris stars as Bev Harris in 'Bev Harris'!

[flyingobject]

69. BBV suddenly realizes they have a "tainted" donation

Well, Bev has suddenly realized that she received a donation from Donna Curling,
from 2004, and must return it

She was for it before she was against it.


First comes Donna Curling's July 18 message that
stated she had donated to Bev Harris' BBV.org AND to Democratic Undergound.

"I "found" DU mid-November, 2004, during what I now refer to as "the dark days" following the 2004 election and it was like finding a light in the darkness. Probably like many of you, I was in a deep depression over the election results and I firmly believed that yet another election had been stolen. DU offered me a place to vent, a place to recover, a place to talk to people who shared my belief, and ultimately a place to hook up with other activists who wanted to do more than sit behind their computer screens and bemoan our sad fate. The same night I found DU I also found BBV and made donations to both organizations. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=441267&mesg_id=441267

Bev promptly decides (almost 2 years later) that she must return
this donation in order to retain her honor

July 19, 2006 - 08:26 am:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate Pat's vigilence. He caught me coming off a plane
and let me know of the Curling donation. I was actually walking down
the ramp when he called; I stopped to search the database before even
going to the baggage claim. Found Curling in the database, told Pat to
let folks know the money is not something we can accept,
now that we know the connections. We are returning it immediately...

Bev has a detailed list of donors,
describing the "$500 ones and the "$1,000" ones.

We're busy, and on the road all the time, but I was so concerned about
this that I took the donor list and googled everyone that gave $1000 or more.
I did some of the $500 ones but stopped midway through.
I did this around April 2005... http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/17778.html?1153333129#POST26104

[troubleinwinter]

70. Charming, Bev...

..now that you have cast stones.

So NOW can we know just WHO donated $30,000 and WHO donated $20,000 to BBV? Or do you only throw stones at others over small amounts while keeping these huge donations a secret?

[EFerrari]

74. It's just gets worse and worse. n/t

[Rex]

71. I wonder if RimJob shitted her out a list of donor details.

I hope the IRS takes her home. I'm sure she has more than one by now.

[troubleinwinter]

72. Do you think she'll also "realize" she hasn't filed the tax reports???

[EFerrari]

75. How do you forget to do something like that?

:rofl:

[flyingobject]

76. we'll just have to keep calling the IRS to see

This is just really weird.

Dag, she really ripped Vote Trust on her message board,
not just in that news article.

Heck, though, she has ripped everyone,
I remember one week she was in a press release with
Open Voting Consortium, and then about a week later
she was ripping OVC.

There is some discussion over on her forum about
the "votoscope".

She is hinting that she will donate the technology,
but you can guess how that will turn out...

It sounds like something out of the "independent verification systems"
category.

I can see election officials now, saying
the VotoScope could replace doing recounts by hand too.

[troubleinwinter]

77. Hahahaha!!!!!!

"she will donate the technology" just like she claimed she was going to donate the Qui Tam money and post the check in May last year. Never happened, doesn't even show on the 'supposed', never-filed 990. Just like she claimed to donate $2,000 to the attorneys in Ohio, but it isn't shown at all in the filing. Maybe she forgot all about that lie.

Pfffft. It makes me tired. Why the fuck do I have to look at this shit? Why in hell can't she just act honestly? Abide by law, deposit payroll money taken from workers, file tax forms on time.... This IS a waste of my time!!! And a waste of donors' money. I am fed up to here. Disgusted.

[EFerrari]

78. You have a stronger stomach than I do, that's for sure.

Wtf "technology" has she ever understood enough to "donate"?

Donate? She doesn't even pay her bills.

What a crock.

[flyingobject]

81. actually its Hursti's technology

but maybe it will become hers.

cool, getting into the voting industry - with a machine
that may eliminate the need to hand count the paper ballots
on some optical scanners.

Election officials will snap these up like hot cakes.

[Kelvin Mace]

92. You forgot she also claims she donated $10,000

to Stephen Heller, he guy she burned for her qui tam money.

[troubleinwinter]

79. Are there any legitimate orgs left that she hasn't ripped?

Just give her another minute.

[Kelvin Mace]

91. You need a proctoscope

to learn where your money went.

[Kelvin Mace]

90. Do you notice that the Branch Bevidians

are awful quiet lately?

A few have popped up, but their heart doesn't seem to be in it.

Perhaps they are having doubts in their messiah?

[troubleinwinter]

94. These guys?

[EFerrari]

104. Now, that's funny.

:rofl:

[trumad]

84. Head shaking numb....

What could have been if not for the greedy.

[fooj]

85. So very true...

[philosophie_en_rose]

95. Someone should send a friendly message to the WA Attorney General's Office

About her alleged nonprofit work.

[troubleinwinter]

99. So seemed to hint the Washington State Secretary of State's office.

(snips from earlier threads related to this)

[philosophie_en_rose]

102. The AGs office handles consumer protection/ fraud issues too.

The SoS office is probably the right place for the nonprofit business, but reporting to the AGs office may get a quicker response.

If BH is claiming that she's using the money for a particular purpose or sells anything, the AG is another route to go.

I don't know enough to send a complaint, but, if I did, I'd complain to the AG and the SoS.

[Breeze54]

96. Big fucking deal!

"Bev Harris has NOT filed a tax return with the IRS"

I don't give a rats ass!! Neither have I!! :rofl:

[Kelvin Mace]

97. Ah, an aologist finally chimes in

Are you required to by law?

Ms. Harris is.

She took in a million dollars of the public's money, and then presented us with a fake accounting of its use. What honest person does that?

[Breeze54]

98. Yup! She plotted all along!!

She's never done one damn good thing!! Ever!!
Andy would agree with her hanging in the public square!!
:sarcasm:

Ya need your fucking $20 bucks back?? PM me!

BTW?? What the fuck is an aologist?? :shrug:

















:sarcasm:

[troubleinwinter]

100. An aologist

is an apologist for someone who ignores laws, for one who feels 'above the law'.

[Kelvin Mace]

101. Please, is a typo flame is the best you can do

save the bandwidth.

If you think my concern over this is about $20, you are not paying attention.

And no, she has done nothing that didn't make her a buck or feed her ego. She burned her source and sold him out to the cops to get her dirty qui tam money, then lied and said she was going to donate it BBV. Her filings prove she did no such thing.

The woman is a liar and you want to follow her for some reason.

[EFerrari]

103. That's right. Andy was cool with her screwing him out of his

salary, his health insurance and his good name.

He was just fine with that, and no doubt he'd have loved to see her continue to screw anyone she can, including her donors, as long as possible.

Let's support that, for Andy. :sarcasm:

[benburch]

105. Andy's last request to me.

"Don't let Bev get away with this."

[Kelvin Mace]

106. We're trying Andy,

we're trying...