Incredible shrinking identity

[Ignoramus]

Since 2001 crises keep happening, after which I suddenly have to lower my expectations of people's sympathy with me.

The process is a serious of demoralizing surprises, e.g.:

Everyone knows the notion that ends don't justify means. Wow! They don't know that.
Everyone knows that torture is wrong. Wow! They don't know that.
Everyone knows that invading countries is wrong. Wow! They don't know that.

Each one of these surprises is like a punch in the stomach. And it keeps happening.

It's as if someone plans these things in order to demoralize me. As if someone says "Look how vicious and cruel we can be, and see the people you thought were your friends, they like the killing".

So, essentially, the invasion of Iraq left me feeling that half of the country is my enemy. They would happily have me tortured and killed. Wham! A sickening punch in the stomach.

Now the latest thing is the Israeli bombing of Lebanon. Wham! Even the people who I thought were with me against militarism, some even post on DU with "peace signs" and they cheer for children being blasted apart. Oooff!!! Damn.

So, I guess what it comes down to, is that I think a split is a good idea. I will expect to be allied with a much smaller group of people. I will try to align myself with an authentic core. I will know that a peace sign means "I love to dismember babies".

If there is another large US deathfest and people call it a war, I will now know not to trust supposedly liberal people, if there is a call to detain people who "give aid and comfort to the enemy", because the supposedly liberal people will probably go along with rounding up people who are opposed to the killing, if the deathfest is framed as an attack on Israel.

Cry. In immediately practical terms, I think I'm going to not support any democrat if it's possible to do so without voting for a republican or worse. In a sense I'm going to look for the long-term goal, and repeated short-term lose in the mean time.

[sweetheart]

1. very well put

I feel the same way as you, except with the drugs war, and "wham, punch in the stomach",
"feeling that half the country is my enemy." Whatever drives you underground, sir, is
golden, whatever shakes the buddha out of his illusory garden, is good. They punch people
in the stomach, and the strong stand firm and take the blow, feeling the terror of their
divisive political tactic of divide and rule, of divisive tearing at our civil fabric,
and our society is torn in to our own private emotions, tearing away in to our hearts
and loves, our most deepest emotive feelings of truth and awareness of right and wrong.

It is not the democrats who are the problem, it is the system of corrupt corporatism, it
is the divisive divide-and-rule politics of a war administration, making war on the electorate
that no single body of people can embrace and say we stand for justice. word.

[MADem]

2. I'll tell you what I can't understand, as someone who despises war

Why is it that no one says anything about EIGHT youngsters, doing their reserve duty inside their own country, who are brutally murdered inside their own borders by thugs who crossed the border with intent to do harm?

Why is it that no one says a prayer for the two kids who were not killed, but if they are still alive, are being held hostage by these same thugs?

Why is it no one says a word while these thugs launch thousands of rockets over the border, taking loads of cash AND orders, NOT from the country where they are launching their nefarious deeds, but instead from an Indo-European country at the other end of the region??

But why is it, that when Israel responds to these three provocations, each one alone quite serious, that Israel is suddenly the villain?

What should Israel do? Sing Kumbaya to the militia that has as a publicly stated goal the eradication of Israel, and the pushing of all the JEWS into the SEA?

Keep in mind, supporters of Hizb'Allah are supporting the proxies of Iran. And Iran is headed by a bunch of crazyass, miserable bastards who will stone a woman to death for holding hands with a man, and who will kill someone for the "crime" of "homosexuality."

So, why are there so many slavering cheerleaders for these vicious Shi'a bastards?

Is it ignorance of their agenda, or is it simply that it's just too fashionable to hate those Jews???

[movonne]

3. It sometimes upsets me when people say we hate Jews, when you

don't agree with Israel..I don't hate Jews, but I don't like bombing innocent people looking for the enemy..

[blonndee]

4. K&R.

Couldn't have said it better. It has indeed been a punch in the stomach to see those with whom I thought I shared common cause advocate death and hold the value of one person's life above others.

On the other hand, there are many of us who continue to insist that it's WRONG WRONG WRONG, despite the slurs and accusations. I guess we're used to it from the RWers. But it does especially hurt when it comes from "our" side.