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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:20 PM
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Reality Time, Pick a side and stop.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 08:29 PM by Pavulon
What is going on is a proxy war.

hamasbulla > Iran
Israel > US/Europe

This started when the west cut hamas off from the money tit. Iran is using events to at minimum distract from the European/US pressure to stop its bomb program.

All events downstream lead to this.

So my suggestion is to pick a side in this war. That way your position is clear. This war may expand to include syria, and possibly, iran.

We know people die in wars. We know civilians die. 30 million dies in ww2. 400 are dead so far. (3 days of traffic deaths here). Both sides kill civilians.

Read up on the history of the region and wars that happened LONG before we sold Israel guns.

Just pick a side. Be clear on where you stand.

I stand with Israel.

My 2 cents.

EDIT

No Side, NO advocacy is a valid position. However peace is out of control of individuals. I would prefer peace, but that is not on the table as a realistic choice since both sides have chosen to extend diplomacy into war.

My post is directed to those selling one side over the other under the cover of bullshit.

Note this was added about 10 posts in.
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:21 PM
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1. And the goal is? n/t
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:21 PM
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2. I stand with humanity against this madness.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:21 PM
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3. love your choices
If you're not on "Israel's side" you're against America.

Nice.

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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:23 PM
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4. complete and utter bullshit. I choose peace.
but you left that off the list.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:25 PM
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7. I listed choices that are available
world peace is not on the table.

However for the sake of my point I agree with you.

I don't post much. I would modify the OP to list no side if that is fair.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:27 PM
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hell yes that would be fair
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:24 PM
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5. Europe has been critical of Israel in the past and current.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 08:26 PM by AX10
Also, Hezbollah does NOT equal Lebanon. They have a fragile government in place who is trying to deal with Hezbollah the best that they can. 40% of the Lebanon is Christian and they are NOT sympathetic to Hezbollah.

Ultimatly, I will chose peace, but you "convienently" left that choice off of the list. :eyes:
For the time being, a real crisis exists in the ME.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:25 PM
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6. I'll take the people who aim over the people who blindly fire rockets
into cities any day, thank you.

And I do mean thank you. It takes courage to make a post like that.

Redstone
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:48 PM
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17. Thanks
I am not trying to pick a fight with folks. Just would like people to identify their positions. There is a lot of used car selling being done.

I do like the post downstream about backing those who support a negotiated peace. That would be the best outcome. Some stable solution.

I agree they could use aimed rifle fire or attack troop or infrastructure targets in israel with car bombs without firing blindly.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:27 PM
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8. Too hard to choose... I would like to choose peace, but Israel
refuses to acknowledge hezbollah because they are terrorists and hezbollah refuses to acknowledge Israel as a country. So, what do you do? Stay the hell out... let them figure it out and stop funding either side.. when each country loses their aid and their money the war will stop really fast.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:27 PM
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9. whatever... where do these people come from?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:27 PM
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10. I choose Jif!
It's smooth, creamy and preferred by more moms.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:28 PM
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11. thank you for the comedy intervention!!!!
bless you...and... I'm a mom and I choose jif too!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:35 PM
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14. if you want real peanut butter without additives get Laura
Scudder's or Trader Joe's or go to a health food store where they grind up fresh peanuts for butter.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:29 PM
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12. lol
Thanks,I needed that laugh.:D
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:34 PM
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13. When you're a jet, you're a jet all the way
From your first cigarette
To your last dyin' day.......

Oh, when the Jets fall in at the cornball dance,
We'll be the sweetest dressin' gang in pants!
And when the chicks dig us in our Jet black ties,
They're gonna flip, gonna flop, gonna drop like flies!

http://www.westsidestory.com/site/level2/lyrics/jet.html
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:36 PM
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15. I stand with those on either side who want this war stopped. (nt)
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:44 PM
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16. Also a sensible
position. I have grown tired of reading some posts that range from advocacy to anti-semitic. I support israel but bear no ill will to any muslim who wants a peaceful solution.
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