Let's not forget to use talking points.

[ginnyinWI]

We all know and agree about what's wrong with the GOP and the Bushies.
But others need to be reminded over and over before November.
Here are some talking points we can use running up to the fall elections:

They are out of ideas. They have no ideas.
They seem to only know how to screw things up.
They can't do diplomacy when it's necessary--all they can think of is to wage war.

And they are incompetent.
The world is laughing at us because of them.
All the people Condi is meeting with in the Middle East agree with each other that she's useless. (Rachael Maddow reported it this morning)


Rummy is incompetent--he froze when he met with realities he had not expected in 2003, so the entire command structure froze with him.

The Republican party is wrong, incompetent and out of ideas.
They are hurting America and the world just by being in office and preventing smarter people from using smart solutions.

Feel free to add some of your own!

[Dr Fate]

1. "After the WMDs hoax, why should we believe a single word they say?"

"They" meaning the media & the GOP.

I also like to use the word "hoax". Example:

"Wm's were a Hoax"

"Saddam caused 9/11 was a hoax"

"Terry Schivo was a hoax"

"Swiftboat Veterans were a hoax"

"The entire history of the Bush admin seems to be nothing but a series of hoaxes."

DEMs meed to get over their fear of calling these guys liars. We need to bring their lack of credibility into the argument more.
They wont, but its fun playing pretend by posting this stuff.

[ginnyinWI]

3. I like "hoax" too

Also "fraud" and "snake-oil salesmen"--stuff like that.

Some of the most damaging things a party can do is to laugh at and ridicule the other party--we know it all too well from being on the other end of it.

[Dr Fate]

8. Sure- we can use those words on DU all we want. Just Dont expect...

...actual elected Democrats to muster up the courage to use them on televsion.

Not to be obtuse, but perhaps we should call this thread "Things elected Democrats will never say."

[EstimatedProphet]

2. We need to state unequivocably that this mess is BY DESIGN

Everything that has gone wrong under Bush is BY DESIGN. HE MEANT TO DO IT.

Invasion of Iraq? He meant to do it from day one, and made excuses to justify it, instead of reasons that it was necessary.

Real employment is WAY DOWN. Bush meant to do that, and he's covered it up by fudging the numbers.

Gas costs so much because Bush mean to do that. There's no reason for it to cost as much as it does, except for administration policies and the shutdown of wells and refineries.

Hell, even 9/11 was intentional! Why else would they have acted the way they did? They 'blundered' far too much when it happened, they obstructed any real investigation into what happened, their official explanation of what happened is laughable on its face and no one takes it seriously, yet when it is questioned their reaction is to call the questioner unAmerican.

We have got to make sure the American people understand that the country is in the state it's in BY DESIGN. We knew that Bush's policies would lead directly to this mess, and everyone else laughed when we predicted it. Well, it's led directly to this mess, we were right and we need to scream it from the top of our lungs that we were right and the Bush supporters were entirely wrong. If we don't, the Republcassholes will claim that everything was due to incompetence by Bush but the Republicasshole party principles are still sound, and the inbreds will still vote for them.

[ginnyinWI]

4. maybe, but how can we prove it?

They basically hate government, and so don't even try to do it right. They think everyone should take care of themselves, and that government's only good purpose is having a military.

And they only really want a military so they can use it as an aid to the interests of business and the international market(corporate profit).

People? Huh--only necessary pawns in the Big Game.

[EstimatedProphet]

5. Actually, the proof is out there

PNAC's papers are a start. We've been talking about how all this was laid out by PNAC for years; we need to keep talking about it, and talk louder. We can talk about how gas is expensive because of refinery capacity being shut down, and not because of Iraq, and we can bring up the fact the the administration has reduced pumping in Iraq instead of increasing it as they said they would (it's the same thing Enron did to California). Keep talking about these things. The media is finally turning around a bit, so maybe the word will start getting out.

[ginnyinWI]

6. I know about PNAC and all of that, but

the problem is that it isn't easy to fit into a soundbite or a talking point--it requires a lengthy explaination and someone with an attention span listening. Sigh.

But things like Katrina people already can reference. And Iraq--the media isn't telling even half of it--but people are getting the drift finally. It's easiest to reference things people already can see and understand--like losing a war we didn't have to start.

All we need to say is something like, "Look at what Bush started in the Middle East--while he was messing around in Iraq the whole Israeli thing has turned into a full-out war! It would have been better if he had just left the Middle East alone."

[EstimatedProphet]

7. Exactly

And once we make points like that, we can move to the harder-to-soundbite stuff when we have their attention.