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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:58 AM
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When George Met Jack-TIME Confirms Photos
When George Met Jack
White House aides deny the President knew lobbyist Abramoff, but unpublished photos shown to TIME suggest there's more to the story
By ADAM ZAGORIN AND MIKE ALLEN


Posted Sunday, Jan. 22, 2006
As details poured out about the illegal and unseemly activities of Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff, White House officials sought to portray the scandal as a Capitol Hill affair with little relevance to them. Peppered for days with questions about Abramoff's visits to the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said the now disgraced lobbyist had attended two huge holiday receptions and a few "staff-level meetings" that were not worth describing further. "The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him," McClellan said.

The President's memory may soon be unhappily refreshed. TIME has seen five photographs of Abramoff and the President that suggest a level of contact between them that Bush's aides have downplayed. While TIME's source refused to provide the pictures for publication, they are likely to see the light of day eventually because celebrity tabloids are on the prowl for them. And that has been a fear of the Bush team's for the past several months: that a picture of the President with the admitted felon could become the iconic image of direct presidential involvement in a burgeoning corruption scandal—like the shots of President Bill Clinton at White House coffees for campaign contributors in the mid-1990s.

In one shot that TIME saw, Bush appears with Abramoff, several unidentified people and Raul Garza Sr., a Texan Abramoff represented who was then chairman of the Kickapoo Indians, which owned a casino in southern Texas. Garza, who is wearing jeans and a bolo tie in the picture, told TIME that Bush greeted him as "Jefe," or "chief" in Spanish. Another photo shows Bush shaking hands with Abramoff in front of a window and a blue drape. The shot bears Bush's signature, perhaps made by a machine. Three other photos are of Bush, Abramoff and, in each view, one of the lobbyist's sons (three of his five children are boys). A sixth picture shows several Abramoff children with Bush and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, who is now pushing to tighten lobbying laws after declining to do so last year when the scandal was in its early stages.

Most of the pictures have the formal look of photos taken at presidential receptions. The images of Bush, Abramoff and one of his sons appear to be the rapid-fire shots—known in White House parlance as clicks—that the President snaps with top supporters before taking the podium at fund-raising receptions. Over five years, Bush has posed for tens of thousands of such shots—many with people he does not know. Last month 9,500 people attended holiday receptions at the White House, and most went two by two through a line for a photo with the President and the First Lady. The White House is generous about providing copies—in some cases, signed by the President—that become centerpieces for "walls of fame" throughout status-conscious Washington.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1151747,00.html
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:12 AM
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1. article is full of "enabling" language
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 09:13 AM by NJCher
Most of the pictures have the formal look of photos taken at presidential receptions.

The shot bears Bush's signature, perhaps made by a machine.


The photographer comes through, though. That picture of bush definitely show he is on the sauce.




Cher
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:49 AM
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6. We know Abramoff on Bush 2000 transition team, K-street,Nordquist,
Rove, deep embed with Delay and Texas mafia. We don't need a picture, we've got evidence and Abramoff is spewing to the heat.
This whole picture hunt seems a distraction.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:54 PM
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17. Why do we need photos??
We already know Abramoff is a Bush Pioneer and made almost 200 visits to W's White House. Did we need photos of Duke Cunningham with the defense contractors who bribed him? No, because we had evidence and sworn testimony. If documentation and testimony under oath shows an Abramoff connection to Bush, then that is enough to nail him.

Without evidence and sworn testimony, 1,000 photos of Bush and Abramoff together won't make a hill of beans.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:40 AM
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2. the photos "are likely to see the light of day eventually because.."
"celebrity tabloids are on the prowl for them."!!
:popcorn:


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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:01 AM
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3. Those photos are one of the biggest news stories in the country right now
I wonder if there are any legitimate news organizations left that will publish them? Or is it part of Team Bush'a "media manipulation campaign" to buy up all the offensive photos at exorbitant, Mellon-Scaife funded rates, to prevent them from being published?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:08 AM
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4. Publish the damn photos! (this coy BS by the press is real annoying) n/t
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:17 AM
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7. YES!!! n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:20 AM
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5. More proof that our Commander-in-thief is a LIAR.
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 10:53 AM by spanone
A GOOD question...why is Time NOT publishing them?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:32 AM
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8. What about the photos
from Abu Ghraib??? :shrug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:56 AM
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9. Balh, blah, blah ...... Clinton ...... blah, blah, blah ......
Will they **ever** get off that shit?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:08 PM
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13. no kidding.
They just can't seem to quit him, can they?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:23 PM
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10. Wonder how much Karl is paying the Indian tribes to burn their copies?
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:31 PM
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11. WH says abramoff wasn't there (photo shows he was)

"The White House has a different description of the event Garza attended. "The President stopped by a meeting with 21 state legislators and two tribal leaders," spokeswoman Erin Healy said. "Available records show that Mr. Abramoff was not in attendance."

Well my gawd! then who was that guy Erin?

:rofl:

this is getting fun
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:57 PM
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12. A sixth picture?
I thought there were only five. And didn't another source write that one of the pics included Abramoff at Bush's ranch?

Most of the pictures have the formal look of photos taken at presidential receptions.

Are children usually invited to presidential receptions?
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:36 PM
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14. I can't believe he has five children. Anyway.
The Washingtonian reported Boosh knew the names of Abramhoff's children which seems to indicate they knew each other on a personal level.

http://www.washingtonian.com/capital_comment/2006/PowerPlayers/02.html
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:42 PM
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15. all repukes are liars
every last one of them is corrupt to the depths of his or her very soul

they can't open their mouths without lying

they can't get out of bed in the morning without committing a crime against someone

if every Repuke had to give back all the money they accrued illegally, they'd all be in debt.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:46 PM
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16. so Jack's turning over the family photo album

For the right price, of course.

Color me shocked, appalled, yada, yada.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:03 PM
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18. Time does all they can to downplay them already
And attempts to slime Clinton in the process. Wow, what a surprise here!
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