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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:13 PM
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Bus Tours of Devastation in New Orleans...insensitive??
What do you think? Do you think it's insensitive for tourists to take bus tours of the devastated areas of New Orleans. I don't think so, I think it raises awareness, but I know others who think otherwise.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:14 PM
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1. no
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Open Mindz Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:15 PM
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2. not at all
it shows people what happens when the government won't step in to help people who really need it!
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:16 PM
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3. Saw story on some news show this morning
It looked like some of the tourists were actually walking into the "remains" of people's homes. WTF?

yes, I do think it is insensitive.
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:17 PM
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4. Now that I don't agree with..
I think people's personal property should be left alone.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:19 PM
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5. Where is the money going? Is "raising awareness" a goal of the tours?
I would have to lean toward insensitive, unless the answer to the first question is "victims" and the answer to the second is "yes."
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:24 PM
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9. Some proceeds go to victims
But, in a way, all of the money goes to victims. The bus companies that I've heard of who are running these tours are based in New Orleans.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:25 PM
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10. I saw this on TV, also. Check out this link:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/15/katrina.tour.ap.ap/

It is meant to raise awareness and some of the money goes to hurricane relief. I would not condone letting the tourists go into private homes, though, and did not see any evidence of this during the interview that I saw.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:20 PM
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6. I used to get upset at tourists flocking to Ground Zero
but in fact they were very sad and just wanted to pay their respects and see it for themselves.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:20 PM
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7. When I first heard of it I was a little shocked. But then, after
thinking about it and seeing the visitors dismay at what they saw I think it is not a bad idea. Most of us saw it on television. The "tourists" are seeing it first hand. They can also see that the government is dragging their heels on the clean-up. The devastation will be there long after the tour buses leave.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:21 PM
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8. Now they can find buses?
Not completely trying to be funny here.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:28 PM
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11. No, it's an historic event, and it's critical US citizens understand
that NO still has a long long way to go and needs lots of help.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:30 PM
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12. No.
As long as it doesn't turn into a carnival, exploitive or profiteering atmosphere... as in selling souvenirs, t-shirts, beer and jambalaya kiosks, etc.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:34 PM
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13. No. Bus tours of NOLA and MGC should be mandatory, especially
for politicians.

I just got back from Gulfport and NOLA, and toured the damage. The media has not done a good job of describing it. It is beyond anything you can imagine without having seen it. The footage from Sarajevo was no worse. I drove through the Ninth Ward and Lower Ninth just as it was getting dark, Tuesday night. It's unreal. New Orleans was a city/parrish of 400K people (over a million in the whole metroplex area), and yet at night you can't see a light anywhere for miles away. It's as silent and dark as my parents' home in Saucier, MS. You have to swerve around piles of debris to view houses that are collapsed or warped or gutted. Many of the houses floated up then fell onto their piers, and are collapsing. Others stayed on the ground, but the roof floated, then fell onto the structure, either collapsing it or crinkling it like a can. Many houses, maybe most, look as though they could be gutted and repaired, and probably could, if the government and insurance companies provided a fraction of the money they promised.

Less severe than the Ninth and Lower ninth are the areas uptown and lakeside, around the 17th Street Canal--the second one to break, and the one that flooded most of commercial part of the city. Drive from Metarie, on the west side of the 17th Street Canal, where you can eat at Chili's or Chevy's and shop in a mall and live in nice, clean, dry houses, across the bridge to the New Orleans side, where there street lights are out, and the houses are flooded and gutted, and piles of debris wait in front of empty houses and businesses for FEMA to do what they are paid to do and begin the clean up and restoration. This part of the city could be livable and workable in a month or two with a little money and a little effort--both of which we have paid enough money to the feds to expect.

Pass Christian, MS, is one giant landfill. In some parts there are just blocks of debris--clothing, building materials, appliances, cars, trees, wire, street signs, rope, and stuff, all mixed with mud and washed like driftwood into heaps, so that you can't tell what was once a house, or a lot, or a subdivision, or even a road, since some of the blacktop has washed away. It's like nothing they've shown on television.

I want more people to see this. I want all Americans to drive through this area, through the Lower Ninth Ward, through Pass Christian and Waveland and Bay St. Louis. I especially want the Fundies who thank God for this devestation to have to view it, and then to have to explain to the former residents WHY god supposedly did this. Then I want Bush and Cheney and Hastert to ride through it, and then stand amongst the residents and explain why they lied, why they haven't delivered on the few meager promises they made after the hurricane, when BushCo visited the Coast nine times and promised he would not leave until "the end." I met a lot of Republicans who were wondering what "end" Bush met, too.

So no, I don't think the tours are insensitive. I want everyone to know how our government treats its people.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:38 PM
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14. No....
I saw the news report this morning also, this keeps the story at the forefront and also keeps some people employed. People went to Ground Zero as soon as it was safe.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:49 PM
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15. Oh, man, it is twisted
but I am not saying that in a critical way - I just mean it is twisted that this is where that city finds itself.

If the tours are being given by local companies, as you say above, then I say more power to them.

What else are they gonna do? Who else are they gonna drive around? What other kind of business can they start right now? With the options that they have, this is at least something - some kind of work, some kind of living.

But if it is an outside company profiting off of New Orleans' misery, then I think it is disgusting.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:17 PM
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16. Hell, no. Anything to get the story out and...
to make a buck. We need business here...even ghoulish business.
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