Patriot Act Renewal Includes Creation of a Federal Police Force

[kpete]

Monday :: January 23, 2006
Patriot Act Renewal Includes Creation of a Federal Police Force


Thanks to Suburban Guerilla, Mark Crispin Miller and Save the USA for pointing out Section 605 of the House version of the Patriot Act renewal legislation. It calls for the creation of a Federal Police Force. Your imperial presidency at work.

"A permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division,'" empowered to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence" ... "or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony."

Here is the text to Sec. 605, Creation of the Uniformed Division, United States Secret Service.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/013796.html

[jeff30997]

1. "United States Secret Service Uniformed Division"

AKA The Republican Guard or why not, the Gestapo.

[elehhhhna]

15. How does one remain "secret" while in uniform?

[mongo]

35. It's a secret

why you're arrested is secret
where they take you is secret
when you will be let out is also secret

[sinkingfeeling]

2. This must be stopped! Between a SS and allowing arrests of 'distruptors'

we will be living in Germany circa 1935!

[rumpel]

3. Wasn't there a country the US fought against with a similar police force..

[Warren DeMontague]

4. Cue Imperial Death March.

"Everything Is Proceeding According To My Design."

[helderheid]

"make arrests without warrant..."

:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:

[leftchick]

5. The USSSUD!

Not unlike the Gestapo!

[Swamp Rat]

6. When will they roll out the new product? after Labor Day?

[Pachamama]

29. Well, for product roll-out, the best time is before June or after Sept.!

:puke:

Pretty scary....they don't even hide it...its all there to see if anyone is actually paying attention...too bad most of America isn't....ignorance is bliss,eh?

:hi: Swamp'r!

[Swamp Rat]

30. Oi

Did you see my last PM to you?

:hi:

[Pachamama]

34. I am having problems connecting to that site to see the image...

Can you email it to me as a jpg file? I'm sure its very cool....sorry I didn't reply yet...been swamped dealing with flood related stuff. Apparentely, we only have 60 days from the date of the flood to file with the flood insurance. Meanwhile I've also been busy with the clean up which seems never ending. I say this and yet our flood damage doesn't compare to NOLA...and yet, its awful...the mildew, the mold, the stench, the damage etc....ugh....

Other than that, we are good....back in the house....we don't have a furnace and are using space heaters....

How are you?

[Swamp Rat]

36. Hey!

Let me try to upload the file again... check your PM in a minute or two.



I'm so-so... too much to tell, but it looks like you are dealing with the same type of BS. :hug:

[helderheid]

7. what has happened to us????

My country is on life support and they are about to yank the plug. :cry:

[hiley]

8. ...

:nuke:

[NYCGirl]

9. Reading the act, it states that this applies mostly to DC, the White

House, and embassies. It's part of the Secret Service.

[stevedeshazer]

10. So,we already have the Secret Service, FBI, ATF, U.S. Marshal Svc, & so on

Jeezus.

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. Proof?

Can anyone cite a bill number in Congress? I would very much like to verify this information for myself.

[hiley]

13. look at this link

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp109&sid=cp109Ct6ND&refer=&r_n=hr333.109&item=&sel=TOC_208072

[TechBear_Seattle]

16. All hail, the fascist state

I sit corrected. Thank you.

[hiley]

21. ...

:pals:

[Kool Kitty]

12. And who gets to decide what is

a felony? The gestapo officer that hears you protesting Bush? Are they going to be able to arrest for "thought crimes"? Frightening stuff.

It is now New Year's Day in Germany, 1934. This is really frightening.

[kpete]

14. Important caveat from NYCGirl on another thread...

NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-23-06 10:32 PM

Response to Original message

6. Reading the act, it says this is only for the protection of the White
House, embassies, etc., and is pretty much limited to Washington DC or when the president travels

[elehhhhna]

17. THANK GOD. I guess they had no protection before?

[Lars39]

18. And we never thought we'd see the FBI operating in other countries either.

[Sydnie]

20. Unless he adds a signing statement that says he can

deploy them when ever he wants, where ever he wants, for what ever he wants.

Any doubt that this could happen?

He has Secret Service to protect all those areas ... and they all wear black suits (they have a uniform already) why do we need ones with AK47's strapped on for?

[hootinholler]

23. Not only that, but, the Uniformed Division of the SS exists today.

They are the cop looking guards at the WH, Treasury Dept. and a few other select locations.

-Hoot

[RazzleDazzle]

24. Well, let's think about this for a minute

The SS already protects Bush both in DC and when he travels. They protect him to such an extent that they implement and enforce the so-called First Amendment Zones -- far away from Bush. So far that sometimes they can't be seen and can't see him coming or going either, which raises the age-old question: what if they gave a protest and nobody knew? We already know the answer to that, because that's what we've been living with since 1/20/01 when the FIRST protests against the newly-appointed chief weren't seen, noted, or otherwise reported.

The SS has also been involved -- heavily - in ejecting people from Bush events, even if on public property. There were about 3 "old people" in Tampa several years ago who weren't just ejected but roughed up a bit and arrested by the LOCAL police but at the behest of the SS. Their "crime" was trying to carry 8-1/2 x 11" protest signs into a public stadium which Bush was attending for a baseball game.

So, with this, they don't have to rely on the locals, and won't have to generate any negative publicity for the locals, they'll just arrest them themselves. Isn't hating Bush's guts and wanting to say something about it a felony yet??

And of course, this further helps protect Herr Dumkopf from any attempts on his life, since normal resistance becomes impossible under the Orwellian Big Brother NSA datamining, which is probably an increasingly good idea when you're pissing off your violence-prone base along with all us even remotely knowledgeable lefties (aside from those quislings in Congress, of course).

[cantstandbush]

19. So Belafonte war correct using Gestapo to describe Bush admin? n/t

[rumpel]

22. Quick analysis

This seems to be intended to be inserted into the section of the Secret Service Code

SEC. 605. THE UNIFORMED DIVISION, UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE.

(a) In General- Chapter 203 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 3056 the following:

which is:

Sec. 3056. Powers, authorities, and duties of United States
Secret Service

language to be inserted:

`(b)(1) Under the direction of the Director of the Secret Service, members of the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division are authorized to--
`(A) carry firearms;
`(B) make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony; and
`(C) perform such other functions and duties as are authorized by law.

Remember the previosu thread on the C-Span? Night Ridder reporter reasonable grounds v. probable cause..

All codes can be found at:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/uscmain.html

Certain difference to exiiting at first glance seems to be:

1) SS is currently under the authority of the Dept of Treasury, this will be transferred to the Dept of Homeland Security

2) Chapter 3 Title 3 to be repealed in it's entirety?

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT
CHAPTER 3--PROTECTION OF THE PRESIDENT; UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE UNIFORMED DIVISION

Sec. 201. Repealed.
Sec. 202. United States Secret Service Uniformed Division; establishment, control, and supervision; privileges, powers, and duties.
Sec. 203. Personnel, appointment, and vacancies.
Sec. 204. Grades, salaries, and transfers of appointees.
Sec. 205.1 Appointment in accordance with civil-service laws.
Sec. 206. Privileges of civil-service appointees.
Sec. 207. Participation in police and firemen's relief fund.
Sec. 208. Reimbursement of State and local governments.
Sec. 209. Appropriation to carry out provisions.

3) Changes unclear but referred to
Title 31 = TITLE 31--MONEY AND FINANCE

4) Currently SS section does not have these:

`(a) There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the `United States Secret Service Uniformed Division'. Subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service Uniformed Division shall perform such duties as the Director, United States Secret Service, may prescribe in connection with the protection of the following:

`(7) Foreign diplomatic missions located in metropolitan areas (other than the District of Columbia) in the United States where there are located twenty or more such missions headed by full-time officers, except that such protection shall be provided only--
`(A) on the basis of extraordinary protective need;
`(B) upon request of an affected metropolitan area; and
`(C) when the extraordinary protective need arises at or in association with a visit to--
`(i) a permanent mission to, or an observer mission invited to participate in the work of, an international organization of which the United States is a member; or
`(ii) an international organization of which the United States is a member;
except that such protection may also be provided for motorcades and at other places associated with any such visit and may be extended at places of temporary domicile in connection with any such visit.
`(8) Foreign consular and diplomatic missions located in such areas in the United States, its territories and possessions, as the President, on a case-by-case basis, may direct.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp109&sid=cp109Ct6ND&refer=&r_n=hr333.109&item=&sel=TOC_208072

I thought foreign embassies are currently "sovereign" all over the world, is that being taken away under the guise of protection? Same goes for the UN HQ in NY.

and

(11) An event designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a special event of national significance.

section 3056(e) is:

(e)(1) When directed by the President, the United States Secret
Service is authorized to participate, under the direction of the
Secretary of the Treasury, in the planning, coordination, and
implementation of security operations at special events of national
significance, as determined by the President.
(2) At the end of each fiscal year, the President through such
agency or office as the President may designate, shall report to the
Congress--
(A) what events, if any, were designated special events of
national significance for security purposes under paragraph (1); and
(B) the criteria and information used in making each
designation.

So, technically * can say what is an "event of national significance". Such as demonstrations and other anti * activities and will make arrest under reasonable grounds, without probable cause?

[kpete]

26. thanks rumpel

I will go get a cup of coffee and start reading...

[rumpel]

27. Welcome. This is sinister. Everything they do is designed to legitimately

abuse the system.

[greiner3]

25. They may as well just shoot me now! n/t

[Brundle_Fly]

28. Gestapo, exactly the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

In Nazi Germany the police were allowed to arrest people on suspicion that they were about to do wrong. This gave the police huge powers. All local police units had to draw up a list of people in their locality who might be suspected of being "Enemies of the State". This list was given to the Gestapo - the Secret Police. The Gestapo had the power to do as it liked.

more at link....

[Zynx]

31. This is completely fake. Secret Service Uniformed Division already exists.

[Marleyb]

32. Paul Craig Roberts just wrote about this

check it out...
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8434

[mattclearing]

33. Funny you should mention this. The Secret Service are much more

visible in the District these days. In fact, one of them wrote me a traffic ticket a few months back.

[cascadiance]

37. Operation Night Watch is coming!

And if you don't think this admin models itself after the Earth government of Babylon 5, check this post out:

http://worldsofjms.com/usenet/post/021126a.htm

Welcome to the real world President Clarke! (and that's NOT Wesley!)