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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:06 AM
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"I'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today"
It's the old Wimpy strategy:

To get what I want today (maintain control of congress) I will say whatever I have to. I will make promises that I cannot keep and lie in any way I can to get that something that I want.

To debunk this, there are a few things a person should look for:
1. Has this claim been made before by this person/administration and what was the result?
2. Does the person/administration making the claim have the capability to deliver? Is it within the realm of possibilities?
3. Does the person/administration have a motive to pretend to be promising a result?

Wimpy
J. Wellington Wimpy, if you want to be formal about it. And although everyone calls him Wimpy, he's anything but when it comes to mooching -- especially from his best friend, Popeye. He's lazy, cowardly and selfish. In fact he's almost everything Popeye isn't. His catch phrase, "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today," has made him one of the many popular supporting characters to come out of this strip

http://www.popeye-n-olive.com/characters.htm
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:14 AM
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1. Here's a better measuring stick:
Why do they have to promise anything when they've already had the power to do it?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:15 AM
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2. It's because of liberalism's awesome power
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 08:16 AM by bryant69
I mean you can't really tell - it's like they are vampires - hidden, but real. And messing things up for Republicans. Even though it looks like they hold all the cards, you just hve to take it on faith that they are still horribly reperssed and can't get ahead.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:20 AM
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3. The poor, persecuted majority.
I shed a tear every time I think about the war on Christmas and the vast majority of Americans that celebrate it. :cry:


Oh, and though I know you get the point, just in case others don't.... :sarcasm:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:20 AM
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4. Can I apply your metric to Democrats as well?
Replace the parenthetical "maintain control of Congress" with "gain control of Congress." Then say that the same metric applies. I mean, if it is sauce for the goose.... Or do normal rules of logical thinking not apply when the Democrats are being examined?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:21 AM
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5. Perhaps it does, however...
as I said above, it's rather disingenuous to make promises when you've had the power to do it all along and flat-out neglected the desires of your constituents.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:22 AM
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6. of course you can
whoever said you couldn't??
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