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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:21 PM
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Did George Allen (R-VA) Beat His Ex-Wife?
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 04:22 PM by cryingshame
Kudos to BurtWorm,geektradgedy, LibDemAlways and other DU'ers who compiled this info.

After reading the posts on Burtworm's thread, this very simple question presented itself. It is NOT an empty accusation or baseless smear, IMO.

What's under the seal in Allen's divorce papers?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com

The Allen campaign refuses to return our calls asking whether Sen. Allen will release his sealed divorce records. We're not the only news outlet asking, just the only one telling you how the Allen campaign is responding. Heck, one major national daily had a reporter out in LA for at least week trying to nail down the story. It's what every Washington insider is talking about: what's inside those sealed records down in Albemarle County. Now that the Allen campaign is about to go on the airwaves about sex scenes in Jim Webb's books, maybe you should know about this too.

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Here's a rumor from Taegan Goddard's Political Wire:
by geek tragedy
http://politicalwire.com


Emails began pouring in earlier today about a rumor on Capitol Hill about some trouble in Sen. George Allen's (R-VA) divorce file. Josh Marshall and others cannot get a response from the Allen campaign.

It seems everyone is emptying their opposition research files today.

Update: A very reputable political reporter tells me this isn't from Democratic opposition research and that it's probably coming out because many feel Allen "crossed the line" when he started talking about Jim Webb's novels.

I'm told divorce records are usually sealed for two reasons: (a) to protect kids, and (b) to protect large financial fortunes. Neither situation applies in Allen's case, so the suspicion is that it's something not very nice.

Update II: A clue might be in this Ryan Lizza piece on Mark Warner about a story that had been "making the rounds" about a 2008 presidential contender who "once spit on his wife." That rumor was also about Allen.

Probably the divorce settlement required her to keep
quiet--in exchange for a healthy chunk of change no doubt.

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OK, this is secondhand information, but it's from a reliable source. The guy I'm referencing knew George and the first Mrs. Allen and used to socialize with them during their marriage in the early 80's.

He says George was quite the philanderer and was abusive as well. That's what's in those long sealed docs.

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LibDemAlways
Allen's younger sister Jennifer wrote an autobiography called "Fifth Quarter" back in 2000. In it she recounts growing up in a football obsessed household with three older brothers. George made her life miserable. She recounts how he held her over Niagara Falls on a family trip, hit her boyfriend in the head with a pool cue, dragged her by her hair, threw his brother through a plate glass door, and vandalized people's mailboxes with a baseball bat he kept in his car. Interesting aside: another person who attended Palos Verdes High with George (and me) says George showed a bunch of kids the bat. It had "n----r knocker" written on it and he bragged that he used it to bash heads.

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Then there's the little matter of his votes harming domestic violence victims:

2004: Allen Voted Against Expanding The Family And Medical Leave Act To Cover Victims of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault. In 2004, Allen voted against a proposal that would expand the Family and Medical Leave Act to allow victims of domestic violence and sexual assault to take leave from work for up to 30 days. It also would allow victims of domestic violence, stalking or sexual assault to receive unemployment insurance if they have lost their job as a result. The American Association of University Women was for the amendment.

1988: Allen Opposes Rights of Women Sexually Assaulted in the Workplace. Allen voted against legislation to allow a woman who was sexually assaulted in the workplace to sue her attacker rather than be limited to benefits under workers' compensation. He was one of just twenty members of the House who apparently believe that sexual assault in the workplace is just another job hazard.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:26 PM
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1. I don't know, but I heard
he stuffed a deer's head in the mailbox of a black guy for the hell of it! Nice huh?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:27 PM
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3. that's what you call "Macho" in Allen's neck of the woods.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:27 PM
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2. Well. Allen is a WELL KNOWN spitter, ya know From RECENT archives:
http://www.swingstateproject.com/2006/09/vasen_say_hello.php

VA-Sen: Say Hello to Spitgate
Posted by James L.
First it was Macacagate. Then it was Deerheadgate, and, uh, Rugbygate. The slow drip of questions surrounding George Allen's racist past have turned into an all-out deluge this week with witness after witness stepping out of the woodwork and revealing more incidents of Allen's legacy of racism.

But forget about all that stuff for a moment. Lost in the shuffle of these explosive revelations is another one of Allen's nasty habits that speaks volumes to his character: George Allen likes to spit on women's feet. It sounds ridiculous, I know, but bear with me and say hello to Spitgate.....

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:34 PM
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5. Multiple stories have come out about him spitting on or at women.
He uses spitting as a weapon.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:35 PM
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6. Spitgate...what a riot!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:44 PM
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7. I'm not a woman, but
if that f***er spit at me, he wouldn't have to wait for the tobacco to cause tooth loss. What a disgusting freak show this guy is.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:34 PM
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4. maybe he has a little performance problem
just a LITTLE guess... harharhar
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:54 PM
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8. Oh Dear...
I didn't know that this family values man was a serial marrier until his first wife defended him against those nasty little charges of using racial epithets, and I've lived in Richmond for 20 years!
I used to see the second Mrs. Allen at my daughter's co-ed soccer practices quite frequently about six years ago. I actually felt sorry for her. She was very quiet and usually stood all alone while all the other moms yakked away. Many of the moms stared at her which must have felt uncomfortable, but she didn't make an effort to join in any of the various groups of folks chatting.
I thought the kid was a brat like his old man - he wasn't so shy. The kind of kid who'd kick you in the shin above your shin guards...
When George would show up for the occasional game or practice she would melt into the scenery as he did his back-slapping,
hand-pumping rounds among the "little people" who couldn't wait to get two seconds of his attention.
I was a mean mom when my son asked me to introduce him to the ex-gov. I said no and told him to stay away from that gap-toothed shit kicker.

:eyes:
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:04 PM
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9. "...gap-toothed shit kicker."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:12 PM
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10. When did Allen STOP spitting on his wife??
All we need ask til the files are seen.
...O...
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