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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:21 AM
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Republican ROBO-CALLS: Monday's NY Times story on who is
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 12:44 AM by ProgressiveEconomist
behind them.

Rove's strategy for more than a decade is to polarize the electorate, and then energize the fundie/Republican base and depress turnout among Democrats and Independents. Now this strategy has been automated, at a cost in the range of 15 cents per targeted registered voter!

From http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/06/us/politics/06push.html?pagewanted=print :

"New Telemarketing Ploy Steers Voters on Republican Path

By CHRISTOPHER DREW. November 6, 2006

An automated voice at the other end of the telephone line asks whether you believe that judges who "push homosexual marriage and create new rights like abortion and sodomy" should be controlled. If your reply is "yes," the voice lets you know that the Democratic candidate in the Senate race in Montana, Jon Tester, is not your man. ... Using a telemarketing tactic that is best known for steering consumers to buy products, the organizers of the political telephone calls say they have reached hundreds of thousands of homes in five states over the last several weeks in a push to win votes for Republicans. Democrats say the calls present a distorted picture.

The Ohio-based conservatives behind the new campaign, which include current and former Procter & Gamble managers, say the automated system can reach vast numbers of people at a fraction of the cost of traditional volunteer phone banks and is the most ambitious political use of the telemarketing technology ever undertaken. But critics say the automated calls are a twist on push polls „ a campaign tactic that is often criticized as deceptive because it involves calling potential voters under the guise of measuring public opinion, while the real intent is to change opinions with questions that push people in one direction or the other. .. Mr. Swift said his group, Common Sense Ohio, is a nonprofit advocacy organization and is financed by wealthy Republican donors. A sister organization, Common Sense 2006, has received a donation from the Republican Governors Public Policy Committee, an affiliate of the Republican Governors Association. Under federal law, the groups are not required to
disclose their donors publicly or reveal how much money they have raised. ...

During the automated calls, which last about a minute, the moderator first asks whether the listener is a registered voter or which candidate he favors. Voters receive different sets of questions depending on how they answer. The system then asks a series of "yes" or "no" questions about different issues, and each answer guides the system forward. ... Gabriel S. Joseph III, the president of ccAdvertising, ... said his computers could make as many as 3.5 million calls a day on behalf of all clients, at 10 to 15 cents a call. According to its Web site, the company has also run phone campaigns for a number of conservative organizations, including the National Rifle Association, and for businesses as varied as mortgage lenders and a local Starbucks.

Mr. Swift said that through the calls his group had identified core supporters, who will receive a reminder call on Election Day. Neither Mr. Swift nor Mr. Joseph would say how many people had been called in the effort, though Mr. Joseph said his company had tried to reach every home in Maryland. Given Census Bureau estimates of just over two million households in the state, the calls could cost $200,000 to $300,000. Mr. Joseph said that in a typical campaign, half of the homes answered the calls. About 20 percent of the people who were called answered some of the questions, he said, and only about 10 percent completed an entire survey. ... Richard H. Timberlake, a retired minister in Knoxville who supported Mr. Ford, said he hung up after the first two questions. "It became almost a barrage against him," Mr. Timberlake said."
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:39 AM
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1. What a waste of resources...
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 12:42 AM by TwoSparkles
I'm laughing here, because I do not think this type of ploy will work. At all.

When people hear the phone ring, a bit of hope sparks. Maybe it's a friend, a family
member. If they get a political recording, they'll most likely hang up. Most people
don't get their political news from the telephone. If they are plugged in politically,
they've all ready made up their minds and a phone call like this won't change a mind.
If people don't care about politics, it's likely that they'll hang up within 5 seconds.

I'm not worried at all, about these "Robocalls" being effective.

I think they're lame. They're the product of over-paid, ego-bloated Proctor and Gamble marketing executives
who think they've got novel ideas. Oh please.

These calls are a waste of time.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:50 AM
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3. Here in CA we have been so swamped with these sorts of robocalls
from snake oil salesmen for so many years, I don't know a soul who does anything other than HANG UP on them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:06 AM
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8. After the first wave of calls, I just stopped answering the phone
unless I recognize the number.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:28 AM
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10. Voicemail and caller ID - where would we be without them?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:58 AM
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4. P&G have sold a lot of soap using these methods to measure/
/refine the effects of their ads. We all laugh at crass TV ads, but we respond with purchases and brand choices like clockwork. Do you remember the Robert Redford move, "The Candidate"?

We now have "President Toothpaste".

According to the NY Times story, "Mr. Swift said that through the calls his group had identified core supporters, who will receive a reminder call on Election Day."

My question is, have they also identified Independent voters, and targeted them for multiple followup calls, ostensibly from Democrats, to get them so annoyed they stay home on Election Day?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:45 AM
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2. kick
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:01 AM
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5. Groups like this shouldn't be allowed to use soft money.
Robocalls should be at least as regulated as TV commercials for campaigns.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:02 AM
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7. At least there ought to be a limit on # of calls per day received
by a household from the same political party
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:27 AM
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9. Calling back within 24 hours with a robocall should be illegal...
...and punishable by jail.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:26 PM
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11. Another rule with criminal penalties should be identification of
the funder and the intended beneficiary or negative target of the ad. Something like, "This message was paid for by the ------ to benefit Republican candidate -------- and negatively impact Democratic candidate --------."

Since according to the NY Times article only 10 percent of call recipients stay on the line until the ad is over, identification of who's behind the ad MUST come first. Apparently, many of the Republican harassment calls begin, "This message is intended to tell you some things about Democratic candidate for ---------- ----------." The Republican sponsorship of current ads is mentioned at the end (where 90 percent of callees won't hear it) if at all.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:11 AM
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6. There is no prison filthy enough for those pigs.... n/t
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